Kids born today are going to grow up in a hellscape, grim climate study finds
Kids born today are going to grow up in a hellscape, grim climate study finds
almost every parent is irresponsible selfish trash. there's no need to put a person through a lifetime of pain just so you can have a few years of fun playing mommy.
Wow. You know there have to be people alive to fix this climate problem, right? “Oh, we done fucked the world up, time to species suicide!”
Drink some tea, dude.
Thank goodness my second child isn’t due today.
This is actually optimistic. They think kids are going to grow up.
They think people these days can afford to have kids.
Millennials been saying this since we were teens but were told to shut up and sit down
And we did...
It’s why I’m not having kids tbh
GenX been hammered this since we were kids ain't nothing changing because we are all addicted to this course we are on including you and your generation.
The sooner we all admit it's our habits that have collectively caused this the sooner we solve it but we all know that shit isn't gonna happen so here we are. I feel sorry for my kids and hope one day it gets bad enough that we all agree to change it.
Do not blame private citizens for the actions taken by large corporations and governments agencies.
The sooner we all admit it's our habits that have collectively caused this the sooner we solve it but we all know that shit isn't gonna happen so here we are. I
Can we acknowledge that most consumer habits are directly driven by the media and large corporations influencing people through news and advertising? Or that corporations have done their best to offload the responsibility for polluting the biosphere onto consumers, even as they knowingly peddled products that had direct damage to ecosystems and pushed habits that did nothing but make consumers feel better about the shitty products they consume (see plastic recycling).
Sorry but no. Many understand and hate this path yet there is little choice when the alternati-e is homelessness, starvation and/or jail
The study says that people will experience 18 heat waves in their life time, up from 11. A heatwave could be as short as 2 days, or a couple of days or longer. They worry that the temp. Could rise by 3.5C despite current polices will keep us at about 2.4C. It is a bit fearmonger-ey once you read the methodology. They are basing it if you live in Belgium.
The UK just had a "heatwave," which was about 26C+ or so, still far from the highest of 34.8C which is the highest recorded in 30+ years.
Pollution is a bigger problem, with plastic being found in kids developing brains, for example.
Yeah because it's Spring here in the UK. Getting 26 degrees C at this time of year, and for this many weeks in a row is insane.
It's gonna be awesome when we're old and need end of life care and the younger generations are too poor to help us and too stupid to help us even if they weren't poor.
We're headed into a very, very stupid and depressing future. And it's 100% avoidable.
*was avoidable, by taking steps 25-40 years ago. Boomers took us right over the edge of any cliff they could find, again and again.
Welcome to COSCO, I love you.
Maybe that was a little too much Patrick
I’m 42 and I’ve been told this like every 5 years or so.
Stop having kids. No, it won't prevent the climate from going to shit. Yes, it will prevent you from creating new victims.
But... but... who will grow the economy so we can get the first trillionaire? Humanity has never existed with less than 2 billion people. Suggesting that lower than replacement birth rates are possible is eco fascist!!1 /s
The only thing Evil (aka. suffering, disease, war,...) needs to exist is that 'good' people continue to have children.
But.. but… in US, you get a whole $5,000 usd hehe
And a $20,000 bill for delivery
And we're STILL not willing to reign in capitalism.
We doomed ourselves. My pity is reserved for all the species we're taking with us in this murder/suicide for short term profit for the avarice diseased. Those capitalists are by far most to blame, but no one that contributes to the capitalist machine, myself included, is without blame for the effectively permanent destruction of our COMMUNal habitat.
Unless you're an eco-terrorist who has been actively trying to destroy the capitalist machine, the precious few good guys as far as I'm concerned if your goal is a viable habitat for our species at all beyond the next couple decades, we've all been seeing this oncomming train heading towards us our entire lives and done nothing of note.
We can't keep living like we've been living, as gluttonous consumers with 78 kinds of plastic packaged cereal made a thousand miles away in any form AND survive as a species, and it's clear which choice we've made. We aren't willing to live closer to the land, to farm the food our community eats, to live small lives understanding we are subject to earth and not the other way around, so we gotta go so life can go on without us.
Humans are pretty resilient. I don't think we're going to go extinct, unless we do the nuclear winter thing, which I personally believe is inevitable on a long enough timeline. Short of that, we'll see mass death and an extreme decline in quality of life, but we'll probably, unfortunately, continue on as a species. Either way, we'll end up destroying this planet eventually. We simply cannot exist in symbiosis with nature.
I'm not really on the fence about the bright vs dark future thing anymore, as you can see by my name. It's pretty much guaranteed we've chosen the dark future option.
Blah blah ecofascist doomerism. We can live harmonically with nature and have for most of our history. Our current consumerist society isn't compatible with sustainable and responsible practices but that isn't a forgone conclusion or intrinsic to human behavior. That's not to say that we aren't on a bad path, we absolutely are and a great many organisms are going extinct because of us, but ascribing a moral value to our very existence is the wrong move.
Human nature is game theory driven by greed. Billions of people are too much chaos.
Only in a social framework that rewards greed. "Human nature" is almost impossible to understand because it can't be studied with a control group.
Incinerating the planet in the name of profit is a very recent concept.
Capitalism in its current form has existed for the last 2% of human civilization. 5% if you count mercantilism as a form of capitalism. For the vast majority of history, people owned their own means of production.
I would be sad about this, but I think I've used up all my sad, and now I'm just pissed. We could prevent all of this, but its gonna have to get really really bad before we drag our leaders out into the streets over this crap. It's a sad day for our species, and barely anybody even notices.
and now I'm just pissed.
Great. Sad leads to apathy; angry leads to guillotines.
We could prevent all of this, but its gonna have to get really really bad before we drag our leaders out into the streets over this crap.
And it's a one-way progression, so if we let it get to that point it's going to stay at that point even after the leaders are gotten rid of. In order to actually solve the problem properly, we have to do it before it gets bad enough for normies to support it.
It’s a sad day for our species, and barely anybody even notices.
It's kinda like when you're hungry and the hunger pains don't go away until twenty minutes after you've started eating so you eat way too much.
A lot of the major consequences aren't here yet (enough that denial is still possible). People will notice after it's already gotten really terrible and it's beyond obvious that we should've done anything at any cost about it.
Maybe when the arctic circle is springing up palm trees people will understand that it's not a Chinese hoax.
YES WE FUCKING KNOW
Shit, just what I want to read while my girlfriend is in labour.
Just tell her to try and hold things in until tomorrow, that should help.
Congrats!
Thanks!
15/05/25 or 05/15/25 for the Americans is a good day to be boring though.
We will have to teach that there are five seasons now: spring, summer, inferno, autumn and winter.
Storm, Flood, Heatwave, Fire, Dust, Blizzard
With our powers combined, we call Captain Pollution.
Naw, where I am we mostly have SMOKE
No really
Smoke is part of every depiction of hell, so 'Inferno' is still applicable.
Umm actually this is just woke and we should have more children for racist reasons /s
Tell that to Africans, and to a few South American countries, they are the only ones who are not crashing and have a viable replacement rate above 2.1... and then some.
If you were really concerned about over population that is what one would do, but no one here would have the guts for ideological reasons or for fear of being even remotely perceived as possibly a racist. Despite objective statistics. /s
So uh what do I call what we are living in right now?
The calm before the storm.
What we've got now is peanuts compared to what kind of future we're looking towards.
yay.
In an analysis of human exposure to climate change extremes — such as heatwaves, floods, droughts, wildfires, cyclones and crop failures — researchers found that children born in 2020 are two to seven times more likely to face one-in-10,000 year events than those who were born in 1960.
Why pick (great) grandparents as the reference point?
Wouldn't it be more practical to compare them with their parents?
Edit: the actual study does show comparative data for other cohorts (i.e. every decade since 1960). Unless the average LiveScience reader is in their 60s, they just picked a weirdly unrelatable way to describe the study.
There's so many reasons I'm not having kids. My brother on the other hand is having kids with half the state of Idaho. I'll do what I can for my niblings but I don't have enough damage control to go around
It's half the state of Idaho, Michael. What could it be, 10 women?
We are the extinction event
Don't worry, they are not growing up
Thank you MAGATs for destroying our country and the world.
It's capitalism.
Oil companies have known about this shit since the 70s and there's been billions spent to manufacture your consent, keep the current power structures, and prevent change. Both parties maintain that status quo, don't forget that.
We’ve known long before that: https://bigthink.com/the-present/1912-climate-change-prediction/
Not just MAGAs, this is on the whole world. I feel like they've been talking about and warning about global warming for all 39 years of my life now and most of these clown nations still have vague targets set for 2030, 2040 etc. Head clown Trump might be helping speed it up now but no one has approached this with any particular urgency. Our world leaders are just as effective at fighting climate change as they've been fighting misinformation on Twitter and Facebook.
I personally think that if there is a future where we write history books, our current crop of leaders in the world today are going to go down as the absolute worst and most useless sacks of shit, that sold out their people to both fascism and climate change.
This would have happened with or without them. They introduced other problems, but we were already headed to climate collapse before this year.
"Winning!"
And people say I'm somehow selfish or pathetic for not wanting to give any possible kids an undue burden, even assuming they are a white cis-male able-bodied person, the exact thing a fascist wants in this nation.
It's just foolish or genuinely spiteful to have kids in this time. Even if you can give them a good childhood, healthy, happy, nothing wrong with em at all, you can't fix the climate.
I've never thought that anyone was selfish or pathetic for choosing not to have kids, but it's odd to suggest that it's foolish or spiteful to have kids now.
Kids now will face climate change, but their lives will be better than the vast majority of their ancestors. Imagine if your ancestors decided not to have children because they were worried about food insecurity or warring tribes or sabre-toothed tigers.
If there was a meteor about to destroy all life within a year, bringing kids into that would be widely acknowledged as unethical. Many people believe that doesn't change just because the timeframe is longer.
The earth would be in much better shape if my ancestors decided not to have any children
Lol yeah, cuz an unlivable planet is pretty much the same as a predator.
Ah yes, the environment being fucked, causing issues with water, weather, crops, animals, is exactly the same as if you wondered off, you might have been attacked by an animal.
Dumbest take possible. Don't have kids, you'll spread your stupidity and doom them to the climate change holocaust.
Lol, not mine. Good fucking luck to you chumps living below the arctic circle though!
No your kids will get anthrax and all the viruses that are now stuck in the permafrost and will revive once they are thawed.
Damn you, Scott!
At least they won’t have to worry about not being able to afford a house…
But it would be super cool if our generation could pre-pay their spot in a vault
Yeah but don't stop having kids because we need underpaid nursing home staff to work in the hell we made.
So, Blade Runner was a future documentary ? And then Blade Runner 2049?
The researchers note that their study is far from complete — they didn’t model climate change’s impacts on fertility, mortality or migration. This means that the effects of climate change in sparking mass migrations and resource wars were not accounted for in their analysis, and neither were the various tipping points our warming world is edging closer toward.
asuming i'll want kids...
It's alright. Our (USian) mighty government is doing everything it can to eliminate the choice.
You’d be horrible person to have them. Selfish.
Selfish is having kids to fill narcissistic tendentcies and then bitching and moaning about how other people are unwilling to raise them for you.
Sorry for trying to find some purpose in this crappy life in the form of nurturing and caring for another person.
I think my kids will still be able to acknowledge that being born today is still far better than being born in basically any other time during the vast majority of human existence though.
Edit: Showed your comment to my daughter and she said "I'm happy to be alive, thanks very much"
Is it not selfish to throw your hands up and give up because governments are choosing inaction and corporations are out of control?
Such is life
Just wait till tomorrow to have your kids. Kegels it in!
When they don't get to grow up. The species expires. Good job OG&E, way to go. Stupid greedy corporate shills. 😓
GDP growth is also very high, and our productivity is increasing with Cloud, AI, and automation. So we will have more people to deal with it in the future at least.
Stop eating animals! Proof that you care and commit to change a destructive habit.
I’ll do that if you remove every part of your life that touches anything even remotely having to do with oil.
Why pick something super difficult?
I try, but it is hard! Eating lentils instead of animal tissue for protein is very easy. Putting soy milk in your porridge instead of udder milk is very easy. You just buy a product that tastes slightly different next time you go shopping. BÄM! ⅔ less co2 emissions, water pollution and land use from your meal. Well done! It's the single most powerful thing you can do effortlessly by yourself.
goddam maga infants /s
