3d ago

If someone is bullied to suicide/threatened to death, and they actually attempt something like that or die, will the person who told them to do so get charged?

I really don’t know. On one hand, people may say “they did it, I’m innocent!” but on the other, people may say yes due to enforced or attempted enforced suicide/threats.

This isn’t happening to me or anyone I know, it’s simply a question that’s been on my mind.

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Legal questions can't be meaningfully answered without a location. But there are many places where there are laws against that and this can be a crime.

When I was in HS, a dude hung himself and everybody blamed his bully, who to be fair was a dogshit person. However it turned out that the dead student had been sexually exploited by both his parents his entire life.
You would have to show me strong evidence ala Michelle Carter before I'll draw conclusions about what's going on in the mind of a suicidal person.
- However it turned out that the dead student had been sexually exploited by both his parents his entire life.
  God damn, did the pedos at least get the rope?
- I think this is the one case where you should use hanged instead of hung, but I'm not a native speaker, so not 100% sure.

This is a plinko situation. You can drop identical plinko chips in the same place, ten different times and get 10 different outcomes.
Same thing here. How things play out all depend on who committed suicide, how good looking the bully is, the race of the bully, which cops investigate, how well liked the victim is, which direction the wind was blowing at 12:37pm, ect ect ect.
- Because no two people, places, events are actually identical
- He could be a sexual predator who wants to make you his next victim! It happened to me once. The guy was a monster. He just wrote something really funny on my Facebook wall. That's how he gets me. He's witty. It's Alan Rickman
  
  American Dad reference!?

You've already gotten the answers, but I'll try to consolidate amd summarize just because.
It can happen, and it has happened. But it is going to vary by location and specific circumstances as to whether or not it will happen. That's because even in places where there's laws that directly apply, you still have to prosecute the case (since you're asking about charges), and if there's not enough evidence to make prosecution probably successful, charges may not be placed by the "state".
It's a difficult thing you prosecute.

This has happened, the girl was found guilty of manslaughter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy?wprov=sfla1

Sweden criminalized this recently so yes

- If you're a practicing attorney, can you explain to me what roll the judge and jury have in charging someone with a crime? I had always thought that was done long before they game into the picture.

She was charged as guilty for doing that. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/suicide-texting-trial-michelle-carter-conrad-roy.html
- not the same she literally told him to do it many times and stayed on the phone as he did it?

Good luck proving it most of the time

That probably depends on the jurisdiction they're in, as well as the amount of evidence available.

Asking for a friend?
- Nah, just curious

In Europe there is the penal recognition to criminal inducement, you may not be the real committer but the one who has been pushing and convincing people to do it.
And yes, if the person commits suicide, it falls in this category

get back in the truck
Said a high school woman
- That link appears to be broken
  
  Ty for heads up, removed. Somebody else linked up the story already

A lot would be needed to make a suicide actually an enforced one. And this is probably very difficult to prove.
OTOH such serious kind of bullying is a crime already, regardless of a suicide. Death threatening as well.
(Maybe not everywhere, but here it is).

They should get charged, but some haven't.

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