Ye song glorifying Hitler gets millions of views on X while other platforms struggle to remove it

Ah, so the son of George Washington Hitler became a doctor? Good for him!

If only

Right. Before the internet people like this would be shunned by society until they either changed or stopped trying. The internet giving these people attention and power was one of the worst things to come from it.

Nitrous addiction can cause brain damage too

Also, add backslashes before asterisks if you’re going to use them like that. Lemmy uses MarkDown for its markup, and asterisks or underscores around a word or section will italicize it. But a backslash will cancel any formatting for whatever special character follows it.

So this turns into this, but this turns into this.

(Also, I had to use three backslashes to make this appear. The first backslash cancels the second, which makes it appear. Then the third backslash cancels the asterisk, which makes it appear. So when the comment is posted, you’re actually seeing the second backslash of three, and the cancelled asterisk.)

Honestly, messing with the formatting of the first verse was enough. My phone can’t regex, and I really despise that word too much to try to fix it. I’m not inclined to put more effort into the formatting as Ye did into the lyrics themselves.

The only thing I get from the experience is half an hour older.

That was a fire line, and I'm stealing it.

Never do a Kardashian. Not once. Meth has better long term expectations than a man involved with a Kardashian.

So Kanye doesn’t get a penny from his songs he made before 2012?

He’s got another song on that album about showing a younger (?) cousin porn and having sucked his dick. That cousin is in prison for murdering someone. Now, children are curious and child perpetrated sexual abuse is a complicated and messy topic for professionals, but I don’t think you have to be a professional to say “yeah, probably not a good idea to release that.”

We're throwing ourselves toward an authoritarian and dystopian future.

Precisely why we must not allow the glorification of nazism to perpetuate.

Be the change you desire

That's illegal.

Dude. There's a limit to that expression. There's a reason why nobody likes Nazi's and they deserve a punch in the face at minimum. Don't be on the repeat side of history by performing some kind mental gymnastics to preserve freedom of expression and inadvertantly protect Nazism with that argument. That's what apologists do now and did in the past.

Always remember this: if you have 10 people eating dinner at a table and 1 of them is a Nazi, how many nazi's do you have? The answer is 10 Nazis.

Totally wrong on this one. Your rights end where others begin. Is it OK if a guy writes a song about torturing and killing you. You specifically. No? What about 3 songs? 10 songs?

There's a very clear line in free speech. You are free to say what you wish WITH IN NORMAL PARAMETERS! Does this protect some hate speech, or what a targeted group might see as hate speech? A bit. But not the brazen stuff. You want to stand on a corner and talk about how the pope controls the weather? OK. You want to stand on a street corner and clearly call people to violence to harm Catholics and their property? No. That's not free speech. You aren't allowed to call people to violence.

Is praising Hitler, and other neo nazi garbage hate speech? Yes. It's hate speech. There's no Hitler that didn't kill millions of people. There's no nazi party that didn't call people to action and violence. You don't have the freedom to stand on a street corner and clearly make appeals to specific violence. That's never been allowed.

Yep, so in Australia NSW police have been contacting Spotify/YouTube/etc with requests to delist certain songs from Sydney drill rap bands that glorify and promote gang violence against Spotify's/Youtube's/etcs policies, the streamers have in some cases agreed and delisted the music, in other cases they have not and the music remains. This is after the groups theyve had issues with (eg One-Four) have caused multiple riots and had several charges and convictions, so it's arisen from a desire to serve public good. Only certain tracks have been targeted from what I can see, not whole albums or artist catalogs.

That's a far cry from the government deciding what art people can or cannot listen to in my opinion. They have only asked some streaming platforms to adhere to their own policies, and then tbe platforms have made their own decisions on case by case basis.

Is there other actions I'm not aware of? The govt hasn't passed any laws to block the sale of drill rap nor banned its play on radio etc?

Nah this is fucked, stop trying to be whatever this is.

Who gets to decide what art is objectionable and have it censored?

Me

You may want to consider the tolerance of intolerance here champ

With the art excuse we are at the point that saying "heil Hitler" is not okay but singing it is okay.

First of all, these are private companies, not governments. They can technically do whatever TF they want, and we probably shouldn’t have ceded so much power to them.

…Anyway, I think you have a point. Or at least part of one.

It’s reasonable to draw red lines like “no nazism on our platform.” But at the end of the day Spotify and such can ban whatever they want, with no repercussions since it’s basically a network of defacto, legally shielded monopolies.

So how would we feel if, say, they started banning podcasts a little too popular and too critical of the president?

In other words, banning nazism as a policy is fine, but arbitrarily banning what looks bad to them is indeed going to be a problem.

Yeah, if he's singing about how we should all gas the Jews, or kill all the Palestinians, or mass murder all Ukrainians, it's all fine, it's just art, you see?

I'm glad I don't have your big smooth brain

He's a Nazi and he should be fucking shot.

Bad take on Ye’s Hitler music

Are you saying you think it’s ok to give a platform to content explicitly promoting genocide and Nazism so long as it has a beat?

Are you saying that Germany should never have banned NSDAP?

"If you don't like the party, just don't join it" is what you're saying?

🤔

That's not really at issue here.
This isn't the government deciding what art is objectionable, and arresting those who play music they don't like. This is a private company deciding what it wants to host in it's library, that it curates, it pays license fees for, and sells subscriptions too. Ye or any Nazi absolutely has the right to make and sell any music they want. They however don't have the right to force another company to sell their music for them.

So if there is a new song that lists all of the high up government official's addresses and tells everyone to kill them and a billionaire will give them a million dollars to do it, that would be cool? You think that would be art? Nah dude, those song people would get a knock on their door before the song plays though 10 times.

Those assholes don't give a shit about "freedom of art" when video games like Wolfenstien can't get released in Germany.

They've been more careful than Kanye.

Tbf, Alex Jones is more of a liar than he is insane. But yeah he's both.

But also it's super easy to manipulate a mentally ill person. Just keep whispering in his ear that he's totally right and oh by the way he should be upset about this other thing too, and he will take the bait. Every. Time.

Very mentally ill gay fish.

There's a kernel of truth in the joke, divorced parents make up a serious section of the right-wing "SovCit" movements, it's a real entry to the right-wing pipelines.

Scantily-clad people? On my internet?

Such a preposterous proposition!

How do we goad Elon into joining in also?