Generational differences

Had too? Was no had, apple pipes were a choice

Shoulders of giants, indeed

One time, at a party in my house, a guy chugged his bear and then immediately started Macgyvering a pipe with the can. I was like "oh, been a while since I've seen anyone do that. Should I just get him some rolling paper?". And then he put meth on the can.
- That's an M Knight Shyamalan twist.

well, millenials can now buy a weed pen and hit it at target if they want to.
- And still have the skills to turn anything in to a pipe, like an apple

im gen z and I've smoked out of a mcnugget does that count for anything
- My respect, for one.
- I... What?
  
  cause the crust on those nuggets are so thick and kind of separate from the meat of the nuggets, you can punch a hole in the side of the nugget for a mouthpiece and pick some of the crust off the top to make a bowl. the taste is off-putting tho

It is crazy to me that I can just walk down the street to a store, buy some pot and wave at a cop on the way out. Even crazier is that my kids schools fundraising auction has weed gift baskets donated every year from the local dispensaries.
- Even crazier that your school has to do fundraising :(
  
  Fundraising typically isn't something they have to do. That's a wild leap. It's usually just for an extra field trip or something.
  And more importantly, it gives kids real experience
  
  We had fun fundraising so I'm kinda surprised to see it from your point of view. It does kinda suck now that you mention it lol
  We had bake sales, BBQs, auctions, guessing the number of candies in a jar etc... but I guess it all came out of our parents' pockets when they already were paying through taxes.
  
  I'm (sad) laughing at this because my kid's school recently brought back fundraising with more products that parents will actually buy (who are the ones contributing to the fundraising)
  We had some conservative fucks ban a bunch of shit for fundraisers during the pandemic, and tried to blame all the lack of fundraising on covid. But the. Last year, it was proof they ruined everything and were voted out.
  
  Even if a school is completely funded, fundraising still pays for things above and beyond what any funding buys. Elite private schools still do fundraising drives. Nobody has ever said "you know what, we've run out of things this school could spend money on."
  
  Found the person from ~~Europe~~ a non shithole country.
- Surprised the cop didn't just outright shoot your kid.

On the real tho, when I worked retail at a printing/shipping center, a guy came in and started puffing on a weed pen. It was so fucking annoying having to talk to, and eventually kick him out of the store, because he couldn’t wait to do that shit outside.
I’ve smoked and vaped PLENTY over the years, I’d never use cannabis in a place of business. The fuck is wrong with people.
- I wish I could sip on a pint in target.
  
  Come to Germany. We don't have pints or targets but you can sip on a half liter while strolling down the shopping streets
  
  What do you think is in all those reusable 'coffee' cups? Karen figured this out years ago
  
  Free your mind, smoke DMT on the starbucks countertop /s
  
  https://www.camelbak.com/
  
  Could you not put it into a large opaque container with an opaque straw?
  
  Some of the new Krogers have full service bars inside them, so you can sip on a pint in Kroger
  
  Just carry a flask. But instead of hard liquor, it's beer.
  And get the comic-y big ones to hold a full size.
- I can't believe I went from choking from cigarette smoke in restaurants, to having them banned, to now choking on pink raspberry smoke in restaurants.

My gf still uses the toilet paper roll/dryer sheet trick. The whole apartment smokes, but she likes to be discreet and respectful. She used to also burn incense, but I think the massive amount of incense she's burned during our time together has made me allergic. Every time I'm near one my throat gets narrow, my eyes water, and I can't stop coughing.
About a week ago I forgot my pipe so I took my brother-in-law's knife, dented a beer can, and stuck holes in it. Gen Z can hit that pen all they want, but I'll be the one still getting high when the apocalypse hits. These are not tricks. These are key survival tactics.
- Respect, and idk what your pipe is, but I want to take this moment to spread the good word of DynaVap. Seems like a receptive audience.
  DynaVap is a maker of small metal pipes that bakes the weed via convection, instead of destroying it via combustion. It's gentler on your lungs, no smoke. It allows for a fuller extraction, more high. You can even use it inside & the vape dissipates relatively quickly, even still your gf could use a boof tube. You'll spend $40 to $240 on a piece, but let's be real, it's more like at least $75-125 minimum because you don't want the $39 B model. On sales they sometimes throw those in for free. Have some respect, don't buy it.
  The best part of all, besides being healthier for you, more discreet, better flavor, and gets you more high times -- you can blow $230+ on the all-titanium HyperDyn & if you're a heavy user, I can personally guarantee you will save $400+ buying flower. Once you stop burning that shit like a caveman & switch to convection bake, the flower lasts so much longer. To buy a legit ounce from dispensary where I live, that's $280-300. It'll last quite a while if vaping with a Dyna.
  Any convection method will do, but if we're talking Apocalypse/off-grid options, consider the Dyna -- small, all metal, battery-free. Got an o-ring in there. Provided you don't just lose it, you will die & your great-grandchildren could pick up your used Dyna & vape weed with it.
  
  This sounds great and I'll have to look into it. I have nice glassware pieces for home, I rarely like to take glass out in my pocket. I remember this gaming convention I went out to, there was a field in the back. We went back there to smoke and there was already circle.
  In this circle, they were passing around chocolate Godiva vodka and this really REALLY cool piece. It was a large bowl, fat and completely see through. Inside was this massive plastic replica of a HUGE joint, rolling around free. On the side of it, it said "The Labrador". It was an old first production Tommy Chong piece. Felt honored to smoke from it.
  My step-dad is a straight laced guy; ex-manager higher up in the mill business. He bought a lathe. For Christmas he gave my gf a really nice pipe from a kit he bought, which surprised us all, lol. The kit comes with a cone pieces, metal tubing, a mouthpiece, and even a screw on cap with a small hole in it, too keep your herb inside when it's tumbling around in your pocket. He buys acrylic blocks and lathes them to make different colors.
  He's been making a decent side business selling them to local headshops for $25 apiece and buys the kits for $15. I've told him he could charge more, but its just a hobby and he doesn't want to get greedy with it. He can make tiny short ones, or double pipe long ones. The cones even have a shelf to set screens on. I've always just flattened a piece of sticky bud to make a screen and keep the ground material out of the works, but the little screen shelf is great for that. I bought one and that's what I use to carry around. Its an all metal-acrylic construction.
  Here's a pic of one (not the best quality camera, lol):
  He gets all kinds of cool acrylics and the metal can be silver, gold, or black. My gf loves halloween, so she has a black one with a bright orange mica design acrylic. It completely screws down to the base components, so it's super easy to clean.
  
  One of my favorite devices! That was my first dry vape and now I’ve got the volcano as well.
  My favorite thing about dry vaping is I can get high on the vapor, and then use the decarbed flower (since we don’t have to combust it) to make edibles.
- Pro soda/beer can pipe tip for those reading a local backup of Lemmy during the apocalypse: if your knife is stuck in a dead raider and you need a toke, you can snap part of the can's pull tab off to make a puncture tool.
  Don't forget to get that knife back though, fr. Actually maybe go do that first, but still do this rather than use a bloody knife. Hygiene, man.

Across the street from my friend's house, there was a mini forest There was a clearing inside, so people would hangout there, some people made bike trails and stuff like that.
At one point some people brought in a wooden picnic bench. So, my friend carved out a place on the bench to smoke weed form.
tldr - I smoked weed out of a picnic bench.

Remember when Sobe bottles were glass and had the manufacturing weak point near the bottom you could smash out with a nail and a rock? They made excellent steamrollers.
- I never tried that, but if you fill a bottle with water and submerge it in water then you can drill holes in the glass without it shattering

Gen x my weed was brown from a brick and mostly seeds and stems.
- Used to love getting the corner of the brick and seeing it's compressed shape LOL.
- Rolling on vinyl album covers

Actually, both generations got it wrong. We rolled with biodegradable papers. No plastic required.

The ol' "doob tube". Ahh, the memories. We thought we were being sneaky but it was more of a, "Congratulations, now your room just smells like dryer sheets and shitty weed, you fucking genius." And we all just did that anyway.
- Also if you accidentally inhaled through it, it felt like you were suffocating to death by eating the snuggle bear's ass.
  
  Gateway drug to eating ass.

as a gen z i absolutely hate weed pens so much. they take 110% of the fun out of it. and they clog. and taste worse. and "uh hey do you have a charger my weed died" is just ????? no thank you.
i prefer that apple pipe or literally any other stoner engineering and my sploof. you can put cute stickers and stuff on a sploof too. smoking weed is supposed to be an experience not a quick inhale off a metal rod and forgetting about it until it hits. if ur bringing a pen to a smoke sesh bye. take ur vape somewhere else :) rant over
- smoking weed is supposed to be an experience
  I mean if you just started smoking yeah. When you've been smoking for 10+ years not every session needs to be life changing. I'll roll up a nice joint or pack a solid bowl for fun times when I want the "experience" but for normal getting high purposes the pen stays by my side
  
  oh for sure, but by experience i don't mean life changing as much as i mean literally anything other than a hit off plastic and waiting for it to kick in, id rather do edibles at that point.
  my normal getting high purposes usually involve a super tiny crack pipe with a bowl that's already half ash lol. i also just don't like carts because of how different the smoke feels, so 99% of the experience i mean is probably related to the heat of the lighter or something lol idk
- My very first experience with weed was at a party, hitting a gravity bong made out of a 2L bottle of Coke, a big jug of Hawaiian Punch, and the fattest bowl I’ve ever fucking seen:
  
  I hit the entire 2L, (essentially 1-hitting the entire bowl), accidentally sucked too hard at the end of the hit and got a mouthful of dirty bong water, immediately coughed up a lung while trying not to puke my guts out, and had the most wicked high of my life… The way God intended.
  That shit teaches respect. If my first experience with weed was hitting a pen, I wouldn’t have learned that a plant can rip your soul out for like 15 minutes. The same way a newbie beachgoer doesn’t respect the sea until they almost drown, I would have been full of hubris if I had a fucking vape pen as my first experience.
  
  dude, 15 minutes? I watched my friend take a dab for the first time and he was unresponsive for two fucking hours. He was standing upright staring at the horizon without moving an inch. He only spoke once, about an hour in, and he said "time is nothing"
  
  Fantastic bucket bong diagram.
  I also remember using glass milk bottles. Drop a coin in and smash out the bottom.
  Then heat two knives up 'till they're glowing red and put a bit of hash on them and suck the smoke through the bottle.
  Lots of coughing would begin...
- You ain't OG if you've never smoked the toilet bong.
  
  This isnt a bong tho, this is just a toilet steamroller, no water filtration.
- Some of them can taste worse. Good ones, like actual live resin carts and not distillate, taste the same as buds.
  
  Ooo I just got a fancy live resin pen from a friend but I haven’t tried it yet (I rarely get high.)
  He said it’ll last me years at the rate I get high. I’m excited to try it, he had very high praise and I like your description!
  
  I wouldn't say they taste anything like buds but they do taste p damn good.
- At a certain point you get over the ritual, and the ability to get high on a ski lift or an airplane bathroom kind of takes precedent over the "experience" and becomes its own subversive ritual in its own right.
  
  i do agree with your comment, and carts can definitely be superior in that way, but 2 small things. 1: edibles before a plane has always been the ritual of many many, and eddies don't die or clog or etc. id also imagine TSA might make bringing a pen a little difficult. but more importantly, 2: why would I want to get high while snowboarding or skiing?? im very clumsy and uncoordinated while affected by well any substances, and that sounds like an accident waiting to happen lol
- Not really the same thing, but I kinda love my desk vape (Arizer xq2 if I remember correctly). Just slowly smoking it for 30 minutes like a hookah while watching a movie is definitely a different experience to ripping a bowl and forgetting what you wanted to do

Or, you know, just hotknifing hash out on the deck and not giving a fuck.
- Ahhh hot knifing, the tequila of weed smoking
  
  Explaining to my parent why the knives were all sooty and burned up because we were cooking dinner and someone left it sitting on the burner.
- Well, that takes me back to 2013 when I hot knifed hash on a deck while not giving a fuck.
- Yes, soda can isn't fun.

What does "blow into a toiletpaper roll, filled with dryersheets" mean and do? Is this some kind of air filter to reduce the smell of weed?
- Yes a homemade sploof to hide the aroma
- it does not work at all
- It's called a "good neighbor" and it has fair to middling effect.
  
  I always called it a sploof. And walking in on people who had just used it, it does not work at all. But if you're high it seems like it's working wonders lol.
- We would put it in a empty water bottle and cut a small hole in the back and blow out through that so the smoke would me amied out the window.
  It was dumb, becuase it did not take the smoke from burning the weed in the first place into account.

It has always depended on enforcement. I had to take a city bus to high school and there was frequently a student or two who would toke up on the buss. Most of the drivers didn't care and we would all get to school smelling of that nasty shit. This was in the 1970s.

Very glad that my dumb ass probably has like 10% less plastic in my brain than most people my age because I never smoked out of cans. Thanks, paranoid teen me!
- Plastic in brain from cans? Cans made of aluminium. I am confused. 🫤
  
  There's actually a thin plastic membrane on the inside of most cans. It helps preserve the taste of the product. There's a couple cool chemistry videos on YouTube where they use acids to dissolve the metal without damaging the plastic, leaving a weird bag of soda with a can lid.
- I'm hoping my metal water bottle helps

I used to sit by my open window and the moment my parents car drove away, out came the super towel tube with dryer sheets
- And did mom think you cool when you were getting high in her house?

I've not seen anybody use a vape inside a retail store, so I can't speak to that part. I just assumed it was covered by the same or similar laws as smoking tobacco products inside businesses.
On the other hand, my limited experience with some of the younger generations is that they're way more comfortable with driving while under the influence of thc than older generations.
- It is banned under the same laws and rules, but since it takes less than 2 seconds to take a hit and blow it downwards so it doesn't show on cameras, you have to be there the moment it happens or they will deny it was then. I see kids vaping on the bus often, and this is what they do. Yes, kids. I see 12-14 year olds doing this. I've also seen people doing big vape clouds in bars, beside the signs saying no vaping.
  
  I've seen people discreetly vape weed while walking between concourses in airports, and I've done it, and so what. Not around crowds. Bathrooms tho yes, into the exhaust fan. IDK how those of us with legit medical applications are supposed to medicate during travel days otherwise. And thank god for it. I used to have to take harsh anxiety meds instead.
  
  I have watched a bus driver flip out on some skater kid for vaping on the bus. We need to get aggressive with this bullshit.
  
  This is why i hate vapers way more than i hate smokers. At the very least smokers go elsewhere when they smoke.
  (If you're vaping to quit though you have my respect)
- I'm in my 40s and still hit my pen almost every time I pee in a store or restaurant. Nobody seems to notice and they certainly don't care. Just be careful around smoke detectors. I set one off in my house once just hitting the pen right under it.

You should see prohibition artifacts.
Curiously in the eighties coke was affordable only to folks richer than I am,vwho were critically white and didn't usually get booked for nonviolent crimes.

I'm Gen Z and did all that shit. I still remember the VG extraction methods to make eLiquid with THC from YouTube. And then kingpens and brass knuckles and others became accessible. The good old times ..

Smoking out of an apple is awesome tho. Sprinkle some cinnamon and sugar down the hole before you start ripping it, and after you're done smoking you have a delicious snack to munch on!
- An apple full of tar and stuff?
  
  A single bowl ain't gonna leave any tar and a smart person would use a screen to keep ash out.

Boofing my edibles over here

And it only took a hundred years to get here