Just installed mint yesterday, I get it now
Just installed mint yesterday, I get it now
I thought it'd be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it
Just installed mint yesterday, I get it now
I thought it'd be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it
sudo !!
which foo
tells you where the foo
program is locatedls -la
cd
without any args takes you to your home dircd -
takes you to your previous dirSaved! Thank you so much.
I've used Linux full-time since late 2020 and I never knew about ctrl+y
and ctrl+u
.
I'd also like to contribute some knowledge.
aliases
You can put these into your ~/.bashrc
or ~/.zshrc
or whatever shell you use.
bash
### ### ls aliases ### # ls = colors alias ls='ls --color=auto' # ll = ls + human readable file sizes alias ll='ls -lh --color=auto' # lla = ll + show hidden files and folders alias lla='ls -lah --color=auto' ### ### other aliases ### # set color for different commands alias diff='diff --color=auto' alias grep='grep --color=auto' alias ip='ip --color=auto' # my favourite way of navigating to a far-off folder # this scans my home folder and presents me with a list of # fuzzy-searchable folders # you need fzf and fd installed for this alias to work alias cdd='cd "$(sudo fd -t d . ${HOME} | fzf)"'
recommendations
ncdu - a shell-based tool to analyze disk usage, think GNOME's baobab or KDE's filelight but in the terminal
zellij - tmux but easy and with nice colors
atuin - shell history but good, fuzzy-searchable. If you still have the basic shell history (when pressing ctrl+r
), I cannot recommend this enough.
ranger - a terminal file-browser (does everything I need and way more)
Saving this! Absolutely gold, thanks for writing it up. You're what makes the Linux community cool. ❤️
tab completion works in more places than you might expect
I've found tab to be such a nice "please give me a hint" button.
...That was a terribly convoluted explanation I'm sorry. Just try hitting tab multiple times for fun if you're stuck it's kinda handy. Lol
If you’re looking for a full list of these kind of navigation shortcuts, they all come from readline
so read the man
page for that. Or just look up the basic navigation of emacs
which is what readline
is mimicking.
A neat thing is that a lot of command line programs use readline. So learning and configuring it will also be useful in for example the Python REPL and calc.
Here are some neat configuration options you can put in ~/.inputrc
bash
set completion-ignore-case on set show-all-if-ambiguous on set completion-prefix-display-length 9 set blink-matching-paren on set mark-symlinked-directories on
And if you are a sensible person who is used to vim
bash
set editing-mode vi set show-mode-in-prompt on
I've been using the commandline for so long but was always too lazy to look up the rest of these commands after ctrl+a/e and ctrl+r THANK YOU!!!
post this commend again and again! There's always lazy idiots like me who will be helped that way!
Nice list, TIL about Ctrl+U
and Ctrl+Y
.
If I may add, Ctrl+X
into Ctrl+E
opens $EDITOR
to edit the current line.
i like leaving top on all day just to watch it.
you've seen top, get ready for btop
I'm the htopopotamus, my processes are bottomless
i'm definitely ready to btop
If you or someone you know wants a taste of that experience on Windows, try out winget or chocolatey.
i'd also recommend scoop. when i had windows before i switched, i preferred it to winget or chocolately.
As an administrator, powershell is an essential tool these days. There are tunables that Microsoft simply only exposes via powershell even in their cloud Microsoft 365 environments. Just last month I had to rely on Powershell to trim previous versions on SharePoint, and 2 weeks ago I had to use Powershell to adjust a parameter on Exchange.
But also being able to pop a Powershell session and quickly apply a registry fix or run a diagnostic command or even just install a piece of software without disrupting a user's work is absolutely brilliant (plus saves a call when I can just email back and say "I've pushed it remotely, reboot and it should be sorted now")
Every time I use Powershell it makes me love bash even more
As a sometimes Windows admin, I completely agree. Plus so many things that become simple one-liners instead of taking forever farting around in a GUI tool where a little misclick screws up everything and documentation requires 27 pages of giant screenshots.
if I could copy pasta with ctrl-c and ctrl-v in terminal, then 90% of my hatred of the command line would evaporate instantly.
Many terminals let you do that, just change keybinds. The issue is Ctrl+C is used to stop/kill a running command.
What Ctrl+Shift+(do a little spin)+Ins isn't intuitive enough for you??
Jokes aside, that's understandable. I guess I've just become used to it, but there must be some way to override the default binding if you don't like it... Personally I like the kitty terminal's approach which uses mod+c/v for copy and paste in the terminal like you'd expect, while still leaving ctrl+c/v for sigint and verbatim respectively.
Also, updates.
"hey computer! Update!"
"Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?"
"y"
"ok... done!"
👌
Getting me silenced by the mob of mods is just what a dirty Linux user would do.
Removed Comment: Windows has winget upgrade --all
. Fucking cultists.
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
We shitpost on Lemmy and start flame wars about vi vs. emacs, X11 vs Wayland, sysvinit vs systemd, snaps vs flatpak, etc.
Sometimes I run the update command and there hasn't been an update since yesterday. I think that's pretty close.
"Welcome to Costco. I love you."
I really wanted mr. Satya to watch my screen with Recall 😥
plus it makes you feel like a hacker for a few seconds
Underrated comment
“Hey computer, I don’t like when you ask for that confirmation, just do it”
“Oh, -y
, I got you”
Two clicks with the update thingy on Mint, if I could never have to use the terminal I might be tempted to uninstall Windows completely.
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%... etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
publish your scripts and you might save the next guy some hours 🙂
The Windows terminal has some very good commands. 'ssh username@server' can log you right into a Linux machine!
Times like this make me miss reddit gold
Just make a $2 donation to their host. Much better than reddit gold.
Just donate $5 to your instance or the lemmy devs.
Nope.
Lemmy Lemon 🍋?
I setup open SSH on windows so you can swing it both ways!
My main gripe is it runs cmd.exe and I gotta powershell to jump into that. If you auto powershell it doesn't work right.
Niw you are doomed and there is no going back. Welcome to the gang;)
Just wait until you find the fun TUI utilities, ill share a few:
next step to full on conversion is making your own dotfiles repo :)
Then get an old librebooted Thinkpad X230 with Arch GNU/Linux (and remind eveyone it's GNU + Linux) :3
I have to check out some of these!
As for the browser, how does it display sites? Does it display images/video/play audio or is it mostly for just the text based stuff? How about ads/adblockers?
My guess is it works like Lynx.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)
You mainly get basic text formatting with some colors. It's kinda neat. I imagine text heavy sites like Wikipedia (or Lemmy instances! Maybe other Fediverse stuff?) would be decent with it.
You can open media with external applications it says though.
Also hey, it's not running all that fancy privacy-killing JavaScript! :D
In some situations I imagine it's fantastic for making your browsing look like you're working on something important, if you have a problem with nosy shoulder-surfers.
I once installed HP shitbox printer drivers from the command line in 30 seconds, and the shitbox printer just...worked.
My heart soared higher than the eagle. I touched the face of the one true FOSS God, and felt that thing when astronauts have epiphanies about the Earth. 10/10, would recommend.
The moment I loved the FOSS community was when I went on an Linux IRC channel, complained about my wifi not working, and some stranger messaged me detailed instructions with a patch in 20 minutes that completely fixed my issue.
I once plugged my linux laptop into the scanner and it just worked
I spent days tinkering with proprietary, outdated (seriously, win XP as target) programs that provide sort-of drivers, and nothing worked, on windows.
Mine worked out of the box on mint. Like, it detected the network HP shitbox and I could print, no user intervention. I was floored.
Same on most distros I've tried recently. Fedora, OpenSUSE, CachyOS, Bazzite. Not vanilla Arch obviously
Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
When the GUI fails, Terminal will have your back; can I get an Amen?
I installed mint yesterday and am having a PAIN installing anything not in the software manager. Currently stuck on teamspeak as my first thing to try. Got a tar.gz and can't find anything well explained online (as of yet, it was already 3 hours just to get mint to dual boot and I was exhausted)
Imma just update: I have given up and wiped the drive to use it as a game drive for windows again. Each turn just gave hours of headache and I'm just done trying.
Installing Mint took over 3 hours of searching obscure errors with solutions that were way too technical. In the end having gone from 5pm to 11pm just to get Mint dual booting. Got it installed and got teamspeak and stuff installed, after a bit too long having to find out but that's fine. Spent 4 hours trying to get steam games to run, not a single working boot and couldn't find anything online.
I might try again once I get my new AMD based game pc whenever I have budget for it. But for now, nah this took too long and took way too much effort. I just started a new work project which has already been exhausting and I just plain don't have the energy to bother with this. Its not plug and play like people like to say online.
With .tar.gz software usually the steps are:
chmod +x install.sh
./install.sh
It might ask you to run it as root and quit. In that case put a sudo before the command above and it will ask you for your password
sudo ./install.sh
And tbat's it, installation should begin. Follow the instructions in your terminal.
Can't say for TeamSpeak, but will say for Linux: setting everything up and figuring out your steps in edge cases is the hardest part. Once you figure it out, it gets so much easier.
https://flathub.org/ is a great way to manage linux apps/programmes. Very easy and several other benefits
Isn't it fun? It's like owning your car and learning what everything actually does, and figuring out how to fix it. And having an amazing community to boot!. I enjoy it.
I'm thinking of making Linux my daily driver apart for some software I need for work. People are super positive about it on here, but isn't it still the case that some peripherals won't work? Or that I'll spend a ton of time making the system work instead of actually using the system?
It would be for gaming that I'd use the Linux installation mostly.
It depends a lot on your hardware. All of my stuff was picked up instantly (all AMD), my kb/mouse/tartarus of course, and my Logitech wheel. Now if you mean VR, linux struggles with that right now at least for oculus. The vive is ok with steam only games I heard.
I treat it a lot like an old car. I love it and tinkering on it is fun, but if an emergency pops up and I have to, I can reboot into windows. Really trying to never have to do that, except for VR and games like PUBG (which yeah we shouldn't support but my friends and I still like it sometimes).
If you're the type that craves learning and the journey is more fun than the goal (ie, me), then do it! I just put mint and popos on 3 different computers and have been having a lot of fun with it.
Speaking from personal experience but pretty universal one at that.
Once terminal kinda "clicks" you will get the urge to tweak stuff. It happens because there is bunch "demo apps" that are just cool to mess around with but simply don't get known on co-orperate OS. Check this as example.
If games you play or tools you use can be fitted to linux, at some point you will port 80% of your workflow just messing around during the tweaking. Like when you do your first rice.
And after that you can confidently chose if you want to add on to that or continue dualboot.
Just wait when you try AUR on arch systems. I was long time ubuntu based user but once I tasted rolling release and AUR I don't want to go back.
It is going to make to want to go back
Someday
When you least expect it, and have a deadline
For me that day was yesterday. Ran an update. Next bootup got a black screen.
Saw it as a sign that it's time to distro hop again lol
That happened to me few times, once GPU driver update, once grub update, both relatively easy to fix by searching the error on Endeavour forums and reading their official updates. And both of these issues was me not reading the update notes.
And when I was once forced to reinstall it was matter of an hour at most to have PC with working environment up and running, thanks to separate home mount and keeping all my installation notes in one place.
But one can do that with Ubuntu too.
I learnt one lesson from my manny distro-hopping sessions in the last 12 years, allways separate home from system amd keep all essential installation scripts and files in one place.
I was a Nobara user and I've gone back. Too many updates that Bork the DE/bootloader (TBF it's not as maintained as AUR) As for fedora... Random NVidia update borked the system too... But I'm resigned as my GPU being cursed rather than the distro being the isue
You've taken your first step into a larger world.
I really like having a hotkey bound to the terminal window, so I can pop open a terminal, check something, and return to what I was doing.
Why the hell did they misspell (and presumably mispronounce) tilde?
FWIW, most Debians (which includes Ubuntu and Mint) have Ctrl+Alt+T set to open the default terminal program without needing to install anything else. This is usually reconfigurable in the system settings too if that's an awkward stretch.
But I get that people like the drop-down terminals too, for which see also Yakuake and Guake.
Before Tilde and friends, that's what I use. I prefer having a drop-down with the same terminal session.
But that's a handy default.
For a moment I wondered why I never bound a hotkey thusly, but it's because I simply almost always have at least one terminal open in each workspace.
I don't really use a mouse or window switcher, so I prefer the dedicated hotkey. It's nice to have a single keystroke that brings me in or out of the same terminal across every desktop.
Every now and then I have to analyze some data at work, and gladly I have full access to my work station, so I have WSL2 with Linux, and I wouldn't know what to do without all that Linux CLI goodness. A mixture of Pipes, xsltproc, jq, Python to get the numbers out of millioons of log lines or xml or json files. If I was stuck on Windows the tasks would be tedious.
It's insane to me that Windows still doesn't have a proper package manager. When you need to upgrade a program you're expected to go to their website and download the latest version, or update it with its own update mechanism.
They do, several third party options and of course the Microsoft store too. It's the users who are stuck in their old ways, which ironically is the harder way. Weird.
i mean its just a matter that app makers avoid the windows store. the only companies i recall I remotely use on the windows store are nvidias control panel (which is ironically being depricated for nvidia app and updates itself).
companies just don't want to use the windows store aome because of the fear at some point if microsoft wants to take a cut of profits, they could strong arm it like android/ios/game console OS. Linux has the advantage that people will trust that repositories wont be paid.
At the same time if there's a software I don't use often I'm not wasting my time updating it every time I update everything else. So for example I haven't played a game on the Ubisoft launcher in about a year, next time I do it will update to the current version from last year's version and that will be it.
Yeah. Everyone I know that switched to Linux liked that as well.
Madthumbs in shambles
Honestly, it's a pain in the ass. The shortcuts are different from the browser, so you forget and hit Ctrl+V. Then you remember and hit Ctrl+Shift+V and get some scribbles around what you were typing
They were there long before the browser. The problem is that they should work in the browser but they don't.