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Nah they make good steak and shrimp and they don't bother me so Ima leave them alone. There are much bigger criminals to worry about in this country than shady local businesses.
Every mattress store you’ve ever seen is likely a front for some shady shit.
Came to say this
Dan's Fan City
Charleston S.C.
It's way more than one shop. Meh, shop there anyway if you like anything they sell. Chances are your government is blowing ridiculous money on bullshit anyway. Pay cash too when you can. And do everything you can to resist digital spending tracking.
There used to be a coffee shop in my town. Every day they had a two-part secret phrase that would let you get drugs, but it sounded like an order. I think I activated it one time. "Can I please get a double-double with whip cream?" "Sure. How's your dog Mittens?" "I have no dog?!" Later, the coffee shop shut down because they got caught drug trafficking. They would double cup the coffee orders that had the drugs, and put the drugs in between the paper cups.
I remember reading a story about something like that at KFC. And the code phrase was you wanted an extra biscut or something.
That's a fun way to do it.
Only one? All vape shops are money laundering fronts, until proven otherwise.
Back in the early 2000s, when malls were still frequented, there was a tea shop down a dark wing that was rarely visited. I was on a tea bender and visited often, it was always empty. The man who ran the shop was very friendly. He was so friendly that he never failed to overstuff the tea I bought, give me a free hot tea, my choice, even the very expensive tea, on the spot, and heavily discount the tea I did pay for. I recommended him to friends and family, who reported the same experience. Empty shop, free and discounted tea, very friendly.
After a while, he opened up a little. He was from Iran. He had to leave very quickly, but he missed his home country. When asked why he left, he would dodge the question. People I sent to visit also reported his question dodging. He hesitated to say much about Iran beyond its ancient (and very cool) history.
I do not think he was laundering money, but he wasn't there to make money. My guess is that he was whisked away by the US Government/CIA and given a new home in a quiet town where he could finally relax and just sell tea.
A few times, his older son was in the shop and was always visibly frustrated or bored, and he expressed a strong desire to "go home" back to Iran. The tea shop man tried to hide the seriousness in his tone when asking his son to be quiet. On occasion, his wife was there. She was friendly enough when speaking to you but always had a wary look on her face when you walked into the shop, looking right at your face for the first few seconds. I know that look personally. She was looking for danger in a face.
Even after the mall's soul died and the anchor stores left, the little friendly tea shop in the dark, empty wing stayed.
That family was not there to make money selling tea. Very, very good tea, might I add. Such a friendly man. I hope they found peace.
To be fair, he might not have been hiding from anyone specifically, it could've just been they had escaped from a war zone and didn't want to talk about it.
I hope they found peace.
Well yes, except obviously not now that you've told on them and assasins find them.
But up to this point, prolly, yeah.
That's lovely. I'm my experience, tea people are special people.
until deprived of tea.
then they're special monsters.
There are three recently opened smoke and vape shops in my village that are 100% money laundering schemes, they all sell American sweets as well for some reason
In 1991 two small businesses were busted for being fronts for illegal gambling parlors. 30 Cleveland cops were part of the bust. I lived next to both of them at one time. One was a t-shirt printing shop, I forget what the other was. A year later I moved into a neighborhood that had a pizza shop with a very nice sign, no windows and never seemed to be open. It was not uncommon to see a patrol car parked in front
My town has a population of about 2,000 people. There are five dedicated car washes within a 10-mile radius of my house, with two more under construction.
I honestly do not understand car washes and how they are supposed to turn a profit.
Biggest cost is the startup and then employees, with an occasional big maintenance repair. Buying cleaning products in bulk? The cost will make you feel cheated for what you pay for a quart to a gallon.
With drug money, duh.
Haven't you seen Breaking Bad?
The drug trade is a trillion dollar industry. Got to wash them somewhere. Where better than at a washer?
One of our customers operates out of two leased "office" trailers next to an old pole barn in the middle of a corn field.
From there, they "operate" 17 different companies, all demanding separate billing from us.
There's no WAY it's legit. They have more "official" registered companies than they have office employees.
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Could it be a landlord situation? It's pretty cheap to open an LLC. Sometimes landlords will open many of them, an LLC for every rental property they own. It protects them from liability. If something goes really wrong and a tenant sues them for big $$$, the most they risk losing is the single rental house the tenant is renting.
Ironically that's one of the things they don't claim to be involved in.
To list some of the things they claim to do
Construction
Hydro excavating
"Tribal Economic Development"
Native American health insurance
"Health" supplements (think: "vitality" pills)
Renewable Energy projects
Manufacturing
Finance
Industrial development (though never actually heard of a won bid)
(all of these entities are "owned" by a Native American- which I've alwas suspected is for tax benefit purposes)
Won't somebody please think of the landlords?
My town had an extremely generically named "spa" that I passed by all the time and joked that it must be a drug ring and I found out that no actually they were a human trafficking ring and they got shut down by the police.
Sad ending.
I grew up near a place called the "McGuffin Lumber Company." It was just a tiny storefront business, and I never saw anyone go in. And, of course, "MacGuffin" is a Hollywood term for an arbitrary thing that motivates the plot of a movie, like the Maltese Falcon in that film. So it was a running gag in my family that it must be a front.
Used to be a Pizza place in my home town that had $1 large pizza on Wednesday no limit, they were the worst pizza in town, but they were packed every week. It went on for years then they got shut down turns out they were using the increase in foot traffic to cover people coming in to buy drugs.
There's a mobile phone repair shop next to where we live. Everything in the window is faded from the sun. In 6 years of living here I have not seen it open or someone inside even once.
Just one? Knowing how expensive commercial rent is in this area, I’m pretty sure quite a few of the stores around here are fronts. No way this town supports 12 different nail salons. There’s a taco shop and a greek place in the same shopping center that both taste terrible and are always completely empty. How does a vacuum and sewing repair shop stay in business in this day and age?
How does a vacuum and sewing repair shop stay in business in this day and age?
Commercial repairs, probably.
Lots of people are having their stuff repaired instead of disposing and buying new. Those tailors custom size your clothes, do embroidery and patching, in addition to repairs. Shoe repair shops will restore leather, resole boots, and give them all a good shine. I've never had a vacuum repaired, but they're pricey enough that I'd definitely try that first. Check out your local repair shops. They probably do good work, because they get a lot more practice than you might think.
When i see rent in some places i always have to do some math to figure out how much money they have to make to pay rent and one or two salaries. And i often don't get it. There is an old town that is kinda nice, but not that much foot traffic, and rent is insane because it's in the middle of an old town. Many stores and restaurants open and then close again, because they go under. But there is a computer store that is open as long as i can remember. And not like a cool hacker, i'll sell you an rtx 5090 shop, a shop that still has a y2k sticker on the window and they still sell you McAfee for your pc. Absolutely bizzare
At the end of my street growing up was a used car dealership with the same 4 cars scattered out front my entire time through elementary, middle and high school. They didn't even bother airing up the tires...
Bakery across from prisoners rights office I used to volunteer at. Went to get a loaf to make a sandwich once. Open shelving all around, mostly bare except for a few dusty loafs. Ask this big, very white man with a head like a toaster, for a said loaf and he goes in the back and comes out with a bag of Wonderbread rofl.
Theres a pizza store near me that always sells the weirdest pizzas, they have beans on pizza and just about everything else. Nobody ever goes in and ive never seen any deliveries leave.
It would be more unsettling to see people enter, but never leave.
Baked Beans on a pizza is great. It's like fancy beans on toast
Ive acturally tried it and tbh beans belong on pizza
There was a famous 24h florist in my city that everyone joked had to be a front for something. (Turned out it was drugs.)
Coincidentally, there's a shop in my neighbourhood that's also floral-themed and suspicious as heck: it says it sells flowers, but I only see potted plants (that don't appear to be for sale) and earrings on display stands (which do appear to maybe be for sale) when I peek in the window. I've lived here for many years, and I've never once seen it open, no matter what time of day or day of the week I walk past. With rent constantly rising and quite a lot of businesses in the street closing or moving away, it seems highly suspicious that this one could be turning a profit without ever being open.
Sometimes it's just a passion project by crazy people. My town has a shack on a busy non-walkable intersection without even parking spaces that sells only angel figurines. Let me be clear, this isn't general angel knickknacks, this isn't specific saints, it's angel figurines ONLY. You will find no bless this house signs. No Christmas tree toppers or ornaments. Not a single holiday decoration, religious or otherwise. You won't even find Jesus on the cross.
Angel. Figurines. Only. I always assumed it was a front for something until my mom helped with some taxes for them. No, it's just one crazy couple who are obsessed with the sanctity of the angel figurine. They feel very strongly about it and asking if they do garden angels now that spring's coming up and you'd love to patronage them is apparently offensive enough for them to take their taxes elsewhere lol.
Once lived in a small town with not one, but TWO Hollywood Videos. In like the late 20-teens. Just napkin math numbers, you'd need every household in the town to rent a video twice a week to support both of those just maintaining their leases... Over a decade into the age of streaming dominance.
There was no way they weren't doing something shady on the side.
Local drive-thru chicken joint took a noticeable dive in quality over the course of about 2 years while I was growing up, then it was on the news that a bunch of people got busted selling crack out of the place.
We had a KFC that got shut down about 20 years ago for selling drugs out of the drive-thru. Good riddance imo, I've never in my life had good food from a KFC.
i work at a bank, and there's a restaurant owner who brings in so much cash, despite his place having terrible food. then again, old people may just like it
In Switzerland it's either "Barber Shops" or "Döner Shops" their card reading terminals are for some reason always broken and you have to pay cash!
It's one of the three mattress stores within 2 blocks of each other, but I'm not sure which one.
Hint: it's all of them.
Growing up west of Orlando, there was this store in the mall that sold like glass figures and porcelain stuff. Never once did I ever see a customer in there. Multiple stores came and went but that one, there since the mall’s opening, remained. When I worked for EB Games at the same mall, we’d always pass it when we dropped off our money and my manager would say it was a front. Everyone I knew called it the Crack Store.
There's a gas station just outside of town where the price is always ridiculous. It's not uncommon for it to be over a dollar more per gallon (about 36¢ CAD/€0,23 more per litre) than the gas station just one block away. I don't know how it stays in business if they're not doing something sketchy.
We have a gas station that's almost a dollar less than competition and opposite corners of another gas station. It always boggles my mind how anyone would go to the more expensive one given you can see the prices of both at the same time.
I found a money laundering deli
It's amazing, they love having customers as it improves their cover so everything is dirt cheap and really high quality.
Sometimes people come in and the guy behind the register politely shuffles us out with an armful of free cold cuts and a wink
None of you will ever hear about this place from my lips
The country town my sister lives in had their post office shut down because they were using it as a distribution warehouse for their meth business and most probably money laundering but 100% was running a meth empire from the local post office.
I'll be mildly shocked if this isn't in Australia.
Ya spot on mate!
Those fucking candy shops in London. You know the ones. Also, I used to manage a car wash/detail shop in Florida, and Breaking Bad nailed it.
Those fucking candy shops in London. You know the ones.
I'm sorry, I'm an ignorant American who's never been across the pond. I'm also confused by further comments calling these shops "American."
Could anyone explain?
They’re in very valuable retail locations in the city centre, they sell American brands of candy at unreasonably high prices, and I have never seen a single customer in any of them buy anything.
This article breaks it down.
American Candy shops in Denmark too. It's hilarious. I still go to them when I visit my bestie though haha. Love those mixed bags.
If you used to manage, weren't you directly involved in the layering of dirty money?
Please do an AMA!
His name is Bogdan
As a kid there was a pizzeria everyone at school said was a money laundering operation, no one knew of anyone who bought pizza there and it was always open... thinking about it now, the town had about 10 000 people living in it, and there was 6 pizzerias and that particular one was in a very odd place and no signage and i have never seen a menu form them anywhere
Not quite money laundering, but for a time thwre was shapp called the 'Happy Herb Shop'. In the centre of town. Maijuana is still lillegal in AUS
Was too young to get in when it was open, and closed down when I was old enough to go in. :(
There was a dog grooming salon in Nottingham with curtains over the windows. Other than the woman who ran the place, no one (or dog) ever went in or came out that we saw.
Years ago, I was in the mall in Dearborn, MI. It has most of the stuff you'd find in any other American shopping mall. There's the Gap, American Eagle, and Spencer's Gifts. It's mostly full of teenagers doing things that teenagers do in a mall.
Then there's a random antique shop full of Edwardian furniture. I didn't see anyone in there besides a sales guy or two, and it seemed completely out of place. Dearborn is also fairly close to the Canadian border. I swear it's gotta be a money laundering front.
Subway?
Beauty salons. Too many of them. Who is even visiting them?
I suppose the smell of acetone would probably put off police dogs, they're probably drug related enterprises
This is true in my home town. I know one that dealt heroin a few years ago. I think they used the nail salon to launder.
Saw this in Reddit, but I'm banned 😃. Anyway, Norfolk VA: the French bakery/deli on Granby St, in Riverview... "Would you like to sample a pastry?" Sure - Hey, that's pretty good. "That'll be $40. Would you like more?" Uhh, no.
I have long held the belief that all these mattress stores are all a front for something.
There's a shopping center nearby that has three of them. THREE MATTRESS STORES WITHIN THROWING DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER.
Mattresses are like a once every 10 years purchase. How the fuck is there enough foot traffic to support 3 of them mother fuckers that close together?
When I worked across the street from them I never saw any of them having big sales or anything. Nobody I knew anyone that worked at any of them. They never seemed busy. Never saw trucks bringing in stock.
It doesn't add up.
I know a town with I think five or six large furniture (or general household item) stores basically next to each other. Big brands.
It is probably a combination of factors: The area is easy to reach by car, it's easy to supply by truck, plenty of space for storage and people actively come there to shop furniture - yes you will be competing with five different stores, but since the customer base travels quite a bit anyway, you'd be stupid to set up shop in a different town. People will walk/drive 5 minutes to check a different store if they already came all this way, but they probably won't head to a store two towns over just to compare prices.
A person I am close with once worked at one of those mattress stores. They get maybe 1-4 sales a day, but they have stupid high margins and pay their workers poverty wages.
Yeah I can rationalize how one storeight stay open in an area, but 3 of them? With the rent in that shopping center there was no goddamn way they were paying employees and keeping the lights on.
I think it's the same thing with sofa/couch shops. I have four of them at a walking distance near my place. I've never seen anybody going in.
Also, an Italian company which I won't name is always advertising on all national TV channels. All the time. TV ads prices are insane, how can they afford them?
In the 70s, the police made a famous mafia family "split" and move from the South of Italy to some North cities, in a futile attempt to stop their mafia activities. A branch of this family opened a mattress factory, which is now famous all over Italy. This is not speculation, it's history. I won't name this mattress factory, but if you can read Italian you can Google "mafia Budrio" to learn more.
I have to imagine matrices are a high margin item because of how infrequently they are purchased, how they cost as much as some used cars, and how important in-person examination is. Perhaps there's some kind of vendor lock in similar to car dealerships?
I walk practically every day in front of a boba tea shop. Never seen someone go in it, or even clerks behind the counter. The shop is open until 10pm every day.
My town has like 20+ different barbershops within a couple blocks from each other. They only do the most basic mens haircuts, rarely have any customers, cheap, and cash-only. The business usually lasts for a little over a year, and then suddenly they get some new signage... and another barbershop is reborn! All using similar stock image logos as well.
I went to one a couple years back and I had to basically buzzcut myself to be presentable again.
A lot of these serve as ways to help immigrants gain a stable footing. This is why the staff changes all the time, the business just exists to get the employees a quick work visa so they can enter the country. Once they have better work lined up, they move on.
That might genuinely just be bad business practices though
I have a friend who is a process server, they've told me countless stories of going to serve legal papers to a business but the business name had changed and wasn't the same as on the paperwork so they couldn't serve the papers
There was a restaurant in my old town that repeatedly opened under different names and in different areas of town. You knew it was the same owners because they had this signature "pink rice" and always had the same menu. Word is they kept getting shut down for not meeting health standards but would just reopen under a different name and location. They've finally settled on one place and have been there for probably 5 years now, so they must've got their lives sorted. Decent sushi though and they have deep fried ice cream which is top notch.
What do you mean? It's not just a name change, it's a whole new company with seemingly new owners every time.
I've also checked how much it costs to rent there, and they would need to cut over 200 heads per month simply to cover rent. If you throw in a poverty-level salary for a single person, the heads required will triple.
Of course nothing definite, but it sure is a weird cycle.
I was also thinking that businesses are bought and sold all the time. My local mechanic seemed to change owners once every several years.
Yeah if they were expensive it'd be one thing but cheap implies they want traffic
oh yea that tiny indian restaurant with no customers and 10 waiters
😎 current U.S. presidential administration 😎
That one is easy to prove.
I keep thinking about the pizza store that was opened as a front for the mafia but did such good business that they quit doing the mafia thing and just sold pizzas full-time
There’s an Italian restaurant in Denver (Gaetano’s) that was opened in the 40s to give the mob wives something to keep them busy and to launder money. The mob is long gone, but the restaurant is still pretty popular.
It's good stuff too!
Had an amazing Chinese restaurant near my old place, really excellent food but always completely deserted. They always seemed so surprised that when we called for takeout and whenever we collected it they'd chat about how busy they'd been, and how bus loads of tourists stop by, it just happens to be empty right now... Uhuh. Surrre. I live in this street, I don't see busses of anyone. But the food was consistently excellent, so they must have actively not advertised because otherwise they'd been super popular.
A maybe-related but maybe-not story: I heard someone talk about walking into an out-of-the-way pizza place. Inside, there were no customers, but there was one employee and there seemed to be a few guys in suits just standing around talking to him. Everyone there was surprised to see anyone walking in, and even more surprised when he ordered a pizza. The pizza took ages to make, like over a half hour, but he did get a pizza; they handed it to him and hustled him out the door without even taking his money. I think they might've even locked the door behind him, I don't remember.
The way the story goes, he took it home and ate it, and it was the absolute best pizza he'd ever had in his life. But every time he tried to go back after that, the place was closed.
I miss the little mob money laundering pizza place that I went to as a kid. Absolutely amazing pizza. Never the same after the feds shut down the drug trafficking ring behind it all and deported the owner.
On the flip side, there's a local pizza place where I currently live that's fucking terrible. Some of the worst pizza I've ever had. It made me wonder how they could stay in business. Then I found out that name of the business happened to also be the name of the local mafia family.
Local places are always one or the other: either they're the best thing you've ever eaten and you can't wait to get back there and have it again, or they're just the worst. I guess that applies to mafia fronts, too.
Sounds like the comic book origin story for Godfather's Pizza.
In my country, it’s the casinos. They naturally receive cash predominantly, and can easily launder millions. Everything else is small potatoes.
There is a super famous, incredibly mediocre destination BBQ restaurant in Central Texas that is famous for an all-you-can-eat family-style meal. For decades, they only accepted cash. Way, way longer than made sense. Like into the 2020s I think.
Their main menu item was all-you-can eat (hard to quantify number of sales), only members of the family that ran the place were allowed to count the take and the receipts at the end of each shift, and they only took cash.
I fully believe they were either laundering money or evading taxes by under-reporting. But then they opened a few satellite branches, including one at the airport, and started having to be more careful as they expanded.
I have no idea how I went this long without knowing The Salt Lick did all you can eat family style meal, apparently it's even at the top of the menu...
Although I'll admit my favorite parts are the mustard BBQ sauce and the hammock garden, agreed that the BBQ is meh. And having known lots of country folks, evading taxes by only taking cash sounds about right.
There was a place here that only took cash despite being delivery and every other place here taking cards. They've started taking cards. They didn't take cards because profit margins are low and card fees are high. I asked them because I was curious.
They might be the mafia though. It is NJ.
There's a place my town that also accepts DoorDash orders and only takes cash inside, but it's a taqueria. I haven't asked why, but the food is pretty good.
Not quite the same but I used to work at a local, family owned supermarket chain that is now out of business. I started at one of the busiest locations, but after I moved apartments I transferred to another location that was out in the 'burbs. At the first location I worked at, all our equipment was well maintained, stock was reasonable, stuff seemed normal.
At the suburban location, our equipment was all falling apart. The roof leaked. The other stores sent us their overstock and charged it to our departments. I was in the deli, and one day the contracted maintenance guy was there and I asked if he could take a look at one of the meat slicers. He said sorry, corporate told him not to do any work at this location that they hadn't pre-approved.
My first hypothesis was that this location didn't make any money, and that's why they didn't want to spend to fix it. One day I decided to ask the store manager about it—he was pretty chill and we talked sometimes, so I figured he wouldn't mind. I said "Does this store actually make any money?" and he said "Well, let me put it this way: the numbers I report to corporate show that every department here, except floral, makes a profit every month. And then the numbers they put out in the quarterly reports show that we've never made a profit since we opened."
"Where does the money go?" I asked.
"That's above my pay grade," he said.
I'm convinced someone was embezzling funds. A couple years after I left, the whole chain closed one day with no notice to the employees.
That's just terrible management
"La casa de las carcasas". All Spaniards know it.
They expanded, they also have shops in Italy now. In big shopping malls, where the rents are insane.
There's no way they can afford the rents just by selling stupid phone covers.
At some point in my city there were two shops open in the same street, 100m from each other. Now there's just one open, but it's insane seeing six employees inside with such a low volume of customers.
you mean the 12 car washes that all sprung up at the same exact time all within 5 miles of each other?
the same ones that have practically zero cars driving through them because they opened at the height of 2020 where nobody was driving anymore?
the same ones that somehow weathered a bust market for carwashes for 3 years?
the same ones that are owned by two guys with the same last name that look suspiciously like retired mafia?
you mean those places?
nah, they're just a couple brothers that were really successful before the pandemic.
I know of a guy that installed a drive through car wash in his driveway. Nobody goes there but it's apparently really loud when it runs and his son ran through it one time. He got pretty banged up.
sounds like its broken badly. his walter bills must be loco, eh?
Carwashes are a decent choice of laundering business, but are also a business with remarkably low overhead. They are a popular choice of business for someone who wants to buy land and sit on it in a place they believe will become developed so they can sell it later. There is a large initial outlay for building the structure, but the actual machines and installation can cost less than buying a car. Upkeep is surprisingly simple and costs less than you probably think. The soaps and chemicals are dirt cheap and sold in 30-55gal quantities that last a month or more depending on traffic. The only real overhead if you aren’t getting customers is your mortgage and payroll, and you’d be paying a mortgage even if you just bought the land and did nothing with it. Not to mention touchless carwashes only require staff when there is a problem and any touch carwash can be run by a single person.
We have a jewelry store in town that is by appointment only. During the day there's always a high end car parked at the back of the store but you never see anyone in there. When my buddy was getting ready to propose he tried calling to get an appointment and it went straight to voicemail with a message that said private clients only and then beeped. He left a message but never heard back. I've never met anyone who has seen anyone go in or come out of that place.
No, that's just a high end jeweler
I mean that's a kind of money laundering all in itself tho
My thought too. Probably by referral only or something.
Local Italian hotdog place that rarely open and when it does it for 1 hour only.
I'm interested in the by appointment only hot dog place. They are probably the greatest hotdogs ever.
Reminds me of a story I once read about a couple being on holiday in Italy. They went in a local pizzeria and were the only ones in there, they got pretty shady looks from everyone, but still ordered a pizza. It was the best pizza they ever had. Also, for the whole time they were there, no customer came there and it was silent.
The "Water and Donut Store" where they get mad if you ask for donuts, say it's not the right time of day for donuts (all times of day/night are the wrong time, but there are always three or four stale, lonely donuts in the large glass donut cases) and have a station where you may, for a small fee, fill your water jugs with minimally filtered tap water. 🤨
say it's not the right time of day for donuts
This feels like it's taken right out of a video game.
I know this great money laundering scheme in town. You take filthy money and they turn it into clean tamales. Abuelita has the slickest game in the county
I knew a guy who drove a taxi for a company in New York back in the 70s and one day he got in a wreck and totaled his cab, and a very large very Italian man came and told him not to worry about it and that everything would be handled and there was no need for paperwork, and that was the end of it.
There's a falafel place that closes at around 13:00 every day and doesn't seem to really care all that much if you pay or not. I can't imagine it not being a money laundering scheme.
They make great falafel though!
Look if the mattress store is out of business, why do I always see lights on inside after 8:30 PM?
Isn't that just a burglary deterrent?
human trafficking.