what does pip do to not suck?
what does pip do to not suck?
I've been trying to get luarocks to work on windows, and all it gives is cryptic gcc errors.
How does pip manage to work on most platforms without issues?
what does pip do to not suck?
I've been trying to get luarocks to work on windows, and all it gives is cryptic gcc errors.
How does pip manage to work on most platforms without issues?
I'm surprised to hear you say this because in all honesty, pip really sucks as far as package managers go. uv
is a worthy replacement.
I think this is talking about basic functionality, eg. can you do basic stuff with a clean install without everything immediately breaking
There's a lot of programming tools that are primarily developed for and on linux, and "windows support" is an afterthought which will result in linux being a very frictionless experience but windows being a minefield of problems and requiring careful manual setup
Today I learned about uv-package manager ; thanks!
If you're getting gcc errors it sounds like the package you're trying to install contains some c/c++ stuff that needs compiling.
A lot of python packages that rely on things written in c/c++ ship those precompiled, which might account for why it feels easier for you.
It's a 17 year old tool in the world's most popular scripting language. It's effectively had billions of tests run against it.
Pip is amazing. It does somethings in seconds that take anaconda over an hour to do.
Pick a language like Perl, where some packages are written in C and some are written in pure Perl, and you'll get to experience the same cryptic GCC errors, sometimes. There's no secret to pip
; many Python developers upload wheels with pre-compiled binaries, including Windows-compatible binaries, and so you don't have to run GCC because they already did it for you.
Thanks, this is the explanation I was looking for.
Also, lua is the same, packages are either written in c or pure lua.
another interesting thing is optimizing runtime using mypyc. This is how our dev toolchain is so quick.
mypy, flake8, isort, ... these kinda packages
Have never tried using mypyc would appreciate anyone sharing their experience with mypyc or other Python package compilers.
I'd love to hear a technical answer, but one thing that's probably part of it is the fact that pip is written in Python and Python runs everywhere without much problem (though uv also seems to work pretty flawlessly too lol)
pip
cannot install some system dependencies your library might need. Windows is extra difficult sometimes, as the library might require some paths during installation, Linux is way easier for this kind of stuff. Either you use WSL, or you follow these instructions for Windows I found by googling https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/blob/main/docs/installation_instructions_for_windows.md
I use Mint btw
The instructions don't work half the time.
@irelephant do anyone care a thing about windoze? :O
Lack of windows support for most luarocks modules has stopped me from writing a lot of stuff in lua.
Who are you writing package for?
backend stuff need not run on Windows at all.
@irelephant lack of support of an "operating system" that shouldnt exist at all is actually a great thing! ;)