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  • Also basic food preservation techniques are ubiquitous and historically extremely important, and most/all of those involved somehow filling the food with "cHeMiCaLs" so that it wouldn't spoil (salt, acid, sometimes sugar, smoke, fermentation byproducts, etc) all of which are as "bad" or notably worse than modern food preservation methods.

    Their point isn't just wrong about people doing fine without food preservation, it's also wrong about them not having similar-but-worse food preservation.

    • Nah this (edit: the tweets, not your reply) is just dumbing down and turning a valid point into a non-discussion. Chemicals ≠ chemicals. Some are safe, some are not safe. Some you can have a lot of, some need moderation. Some are artificial, some are not. Those people just can't not think in black and white.

      Also, a lot of really effective food preservation today don't even require chemicals inside the food. A bit of citric acid, yeah, or some vitamin c. Canned goods are a really, really effective way of storing food. You don't need chemicals for that. Like, there's this whole BPA-discussion but this regards chemicals in the packaging, not the product itself.

      Oh funny shit I found on Wikipedia btw

      A [doomer] would also be interested in stockpiling canned food upon learning about a recession [citation needed]

      ahahahaha

      • Chemicals ≠ chemicals. Some are safe, some are not safe. Some you can have a lot of, some need moderation. Some are artificial, some are not. Those people just can't not think in black and white.

        The bigger issue that a lot of the worst parts of food aren't really modern, they're just more accessible in modern foods. Like excessive amounts of salt, sugars, and fat, all of which are fine and necessary in certain quantities but which get used in a very imbalanced way. These preserve food and when used correctly improve its flavor, but in a lot of modern slop get overused in a form that's specifically engineered to avoid satiation and keep people buying and consuming more well above the level of what they want or need.

        There are also additives like dyes and stabilizers that might not be great for people to eat, but which still pale in comparison to the carcinogenic (and other, also harmful) effects of just like chugging bottles of syrup for hydration or relying on heavily salted instant food.

        And that's before you even get to issues like heavy metal contamination and whatnot, that aren't intentionally added but which show up anyways.

        Also, a lot of really effective food preservation today don't even require chemicals inside the food.

        Exactly, like there's pasteurization and irradiation and sterile airtight packaging which can replace or supplement what are basically just more advanced versions of traditional preservation methods like giving food a PH that bacteria and fungi can't tolerate, using salts, sugars, and fat to make it too desiccating to spoil easily, etc.

  • My parents are exactly like this and resorted to traditional medicine and homeopathy. I don't know how I survived my childhood being so seriously sick so many times and being "cured" like that. The chemicals bit was one that I frequently heard. Well at least they believed in vaccination although they did ask me if it was possible for the government to stalk people with a covid vaccine. They also have a tendency to think the middle ages was heaven on earth. Once they blamed my mental health troubles on the way house was constructed or arranged and there was bad energy leaking into my forehead something something...

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