‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Was Denied 2-Hour Finale Movie, Says Sonequa Martin-Green
‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Was Denied 2-Hour Finale Movie, Says Sonequa Martin-Green
They had the foresight to deny a two hour finale, but still gave the go-ahead to Section 31!?
I wouldn't have hated a two hour finale and certainly the show deserved more than a 15 minute post credits scene, but Discovery was overall a weak Star Trek show.
Enterprise only got four seasons (although it had more episodes) and that was a much better show.
Now if any of the characters want to come back, I'm all for it. Sonequa Martin-Green was great. I hope they can write a script and she comes back and gets the finale she wants, but Discovery is over and I'm ok with that.
Enterprise was meant to go onfor longer but Les Moonves hated the show, and made sure it ended the way it did.
Std and Picard was pretty weak, Picard could've had better arcs if it managed to stay away from STD style writing
The entire premise of the show makes more sense if you assume the entire crew was tripping spaceballs off space spores. While Sonequa was great, and the rest of the acting talent was there... there wasn't a lot they could do to salvage the premise. i take a great deal of issue with everything else.
the first time I tried watching ST:Discuotheque, I had to pause it every five minutes to google what the fuck I was missing. Which was a lot.
IMO the core issue started with script writers and produces wanting to tell a story and trying to mold that story into a trek universe. And that hardly ever makes sense. Is telling a store with in the middle of Trek hard? absolutely. but if you're gonna do it, you have to start with the established universe and ask if the story you're telling makes sense in that context, and discovery simply didn't.
IMO the core issue started with script writers and produces wanting to tell a story and trying to mold that story into a trek universe.
That's sadly been a very common thing in recent years. Writers noticed that fewer and fewer original shows were being made, and latched onto existing IPs or adaptations. And then try to force their idea onto that, which drastically change how people act in comparison and often entire premises of how story-universes work. And Discovery had staff officers acting more over-the-top with emotional outbursts than in Lower Decks. So I might finish it with the "they're high on spores all the time" headcanon.
is telling a story with in the middle of trek hard? Absolutely
Ok imma gonna need to hold allllllll of ISB's beers
Absolutely agree that Enterprise is the far better show. Discovery was a lot of spectacle and little substance.
There were still actors and characters I liked - Culber and Stamets, Keyla Detmer, Saru.
But I had a completely different experience of Sonequa Martin-Green. She overacted and shredded most scenes into teen melodrama, while supposedly portraying a highly trained elite officer. I thought her work in Discovery was amateurish at best, so much crying and emotional outburst that it lost any weight. If a cadet's constant state is lack of emotional regulation you they'd never make it through the academy.
Michelle yeoh too, she made the first season somewhat watchable
All the forced melodrama is so freaking weird. As an adult, I miss watching a show about, you know, adults (even young ones). People who act maturely.
Mary Wiseman (Tilly), Tig Notaro (Reno), and Oded Fehr (Admiral Vance) are already slated to return in Academy. Likely we could see others appear as a second season has already been greenlit.
Tilly is one of my favorites on the ship and Admiral Vance was fantastic, probably because he's the first competent Admiral (that we didn't previously see in the series). Reno is fine, but I like Tig Notaro, so I just head cannon it's Tig always and it works.
They're also adding Robert Picardo, hopefully as THE Doctor, which is another favorite of mine.
The far future isn't my favorite timeline, I'd love to go back and pickup after 90s Trek. We got that a little with Picard, but that show also had some issues. But I want to explore, proper explore, that time more.
That said I'm hoping Academy works out.
(And if not I still have Strange New Worlds to enjoy.)
As I quick aside, I read oded as odo as it was the last word before dropping to a new line & went through the very odd emotions of super excited to confused to sad when I remembered :(
I couldnt watch Discovery, such bad actors and stories. Would have been fun to watch a movie tank though.
Enterprise was the best Star Trek in a long time.
Seconded. Wake me when Star Trek has been wrestled out of Kurtzman's hands. He wants to make a dystopian crapfest with Michael Bay battles, no concerns over retconning or exploring deeper themes. This show won't be going in anyones playlist the way the older Trek's are.
Lower Decks is fun and fairly consistent to the universe considering it's a comedy, perhaps because its the one new series Kurtman is the least involved in.
Meantime I'll continue watching the older Treks when I need a Trek universe fix, and theres an abundance of good non-Trek sci-fi out there to keep us entertained also.
The crapfest that is the section 31 movie is probably the closest you can get to watching a discovery movie tank.
I wouldn't have made it that far ... I really enjoyed the first two seasons, the 3rd one started to shoehorn in false sentiment but I still enjoyed it over all, and the 4th one felt like work just to watch.
I've not seen the final season, even though I have it saved.
The main problem, which I have with all "nu trek" is that it needed about twice as many episodes to flesh out and develop characters at a natural pace so that emotional moments are earned.
There also came a point where the spent more time on characters crying and hugging than on the plot, which makes it very difficult to binge.
I still like it better than Enterprise because at least we didn't get the Pon Farr episode or long scenes of people rubbing each other or someone getting impregnated nonconsensually. But the bar should be higher than either of these.
Sgu fell for that same trapped with all that drama and it got cancelled
I've not watched Enterprise (it just never appealed ... it's the only one I haven't seen now), but you're not exactly selling it!
But yes, when they're capable of making Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks it really feels like Discovery let's the side down
They denied us a great finale, and shoved us that monstrosity called Section 31? They really hate success…
I was really disappointed in the last season of Discovery, but I was able to watch it to completion.
However, I watched the first 15 minutes of Section 31 and turned it off without any intention of every watching it. I love Star Trek and have seen everything ever aired. I doubt I'll ever see whatever remains of Section 31. It was that bad. No one asked for or wanted "Suicide Squad but Star Trek", but they did it anyway. They even took the carefully crafted lore of Section 31 throughout all of Star Trek and flushed the intelligent, noir, difficult philosophical questions, and flushed them with gag humor and "over the top characters".
Oh, trust me on this—Section 31 only got worse and worse and worse, to the point where you think it couldn’t get worse… then it blew my expectations even more. The only Star Trek source material included in the entire movie was the title and the name of two protagonists. Absolutely NOTHING about it was Star Trek, or even remotely a parody of.
It managed to outdo the absolute desecration and crime against humanity that Luc Besson did with Valerian.
Actually, both movies should go in the same garbage bin, then set on digital fire, never to be recovered again.
This movie should be disavowed even more than those two Star Wars spin-off movies made in the start of the 80’s…
