2d ago

Pierre Poilievre says there is no need to reduce plastic packaging

www.lapresse.ca

Poilievre veut sauver les emballages en plastique

Watching this shit unfold from outside Canada is stunning.

I understand not all nations have the same political culture.

But in France, everyone is aware that we consume far too much plastic and it’s seriously harming both our health and environment. Claiming you support plastic packaging is political suicide.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2023/05/29/plastic-pollution-is-a-multi-faceted-threat_6028418_114.html

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2023/06/01/we-are-creating-a-monstrous-reservoir-of-plastic-particles_6028767_114.html

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Does he want to lose literally everywhere except the prairies?

What a fucking moron.

I suspect the plastic bag/straw issue is politicians virtue signalling to the Oil and Gas lobby, like "I'll make sure you still get pennies for your nurdles, Boss!"
[edit - link's to a vox article from 2022 explaining what nurdles are]
- Here's a freshly archived link, so you don't have to create an account or whatever to read it
- TIL nurdles.

North American conservatives don't really have strong feelings about a lot of things unless someone told them it was part of a "radical leftist woke agenda." Then, they'll immediately become very passionate about supporting the opposite position, no matter how fucking stupid it is.
Progressives say vaccines are good? Vaccines bad.
Progressives say pollution is bad? Pollution good.
Progressives say everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect? Time to start inspecting genitals.
At this point, the blind contrarianism has become so instinctive, I legitimately believe a not insignificant number of right wingers would start earning Darwin awards if some notable progressives released some common sense PSAs. Like, get Trudeau and Biden to make a thirty second video on the dangers of operating a chainsaw with a blood alcohol content of 0.3% and a conservative would never win an election again...
- You talk like that wasn't the end result of their anti-vax nonsense already. People have already died of arrogant contrarianism. But it's a death cult so they don't particularly care anyways.

Does this guy have a reasonable position on anything? I'm seriously askin.
- No.
  His only success has been shitting on Trudeau. Whenever he's asked about his own policies or ideas, he stammers for a little bit before turning to talking about what he is not.
  
  It was funny they lost so much steam when he was like "I'm done"
  
  And therein lies the issue with building your entire identity on putting down the opposition leader. Once he steps down, you have no substance and nothing to fall back on.

Everyone's aware here, too. If you were to ask most conservative voters about packaging plastic, they would likely agree that there's way too much, or at worst not care.
PP is specifically politicising it because people kindof hate paper straws, and he will use any displeasure to slip his dick in.
- Why hemp straws aren't everywhere baffles me, they're perfect replacements.
  
  Bamboo straws I like as well.
  Like… I get that paper straws kind of suck. But my god. We’re a week away from the election and this is what he’s talking about. These people are so childish. It feels like he’s running for class president instead of PM.
  
  Never even heard of hemp straws. And I'm near Vancouver, hippy Canada to older Eastern Canadians

Poilievre is a fucking idiot.
- A fucking idiot with about a plastic spoon's worth of microplastics in his brain. (Maybe two or three for him)

There's no need to elect conservatives ever again.

Unfortunately for PP, most Canadians seem to be interested in reducing the amount of avoidable garbage in everyday life.
- Including PP.

Plastic packaging has its use so it won't completely go away, but there is plenty of effort to be made to eliminate single-use plastic.
I wish more stores would sell product in bulk that allow using your own reusable containers. Once you get used to it, it's not a lot of trouble to carry those with you while shopping, and it really makes a difference in the amount of stuff you put in the recycle bin and garbage can each week.
- It’s almost like they used the pandemic to remove all the remaining bulk bins which not only drove up prices, but exploded the use of much larger and thicker plastics.
  But also the whole profits thing.
- Recycling is also a scam. According to CBC marketplace its just green washing.
  
  And there's a reason why Recycle is the last in importance in the three Rs in Reduce-Reuse-Recycle.
  
  It's a framework with a broken endpoint. Yes.
  But it's fixable.
  Once we get past the big-ticket items of whether girls can kiss girls or whether those women can play baseball with those women, and then we decide which tumours can be excised and which are holy, then it seems we can settle things like fixing recycling.
  So it seems, anyway. We're hung up on just the absolutely most absurd shit.

I voted today.
Just saying...

Sensible conservatives aren’t that common. He’s appealing to the simple minds who can’t think past how they feel being forced to suffer fizzy drinks in paper straws.
- Sensible conservatives aren’t that common
  That phrase is approaching oxymoron territory.

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