San Francisco could ban right-hand turns on red. Could L.A. soon follow?
San Francisco could ban right-hand turns on red. Could L.A. soon follow?
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Eventually we won’t trust people to make any decisions at all.
Good.
Right turn on red is notoriously dangerous and deadly.
Any sources I've seen to the contrary are from the very same departments that argue it must be legal because 'freedom' and 'it's not that many deaths'.
Both of which are non-arguments.
Wtf? Why is that even allowed in the US? Never seen that in the EU or any other country I've driven a car in. Red is red, it's like an impenetrable wall. No passing under no circumstance. Simple, easy, safe, everyone knows.
You aren’t pulling across lanes of traffic when you turn right, it isn’t allowed in areas where you can’t see, and you still have to come to a full stop like a stop sign. If you aren’t competent enough to come to a stop, look for a car, and turn right, then you aren’t competent enough to have a drivers license. It is a simple maneuver that is safely accomplished by thousands to millions of drivers every day.
And if you really want to compare dangerous driving scenarios, you have to look no further than the idea of a roundabout to see how people are capable of relatively difficult merging maneuvers without a significant issue. As an American, I’d much rather turn right on red than enter a roundabout any day because it is a hell of a lot easier to do safely.
Yeah, OK. So how do you judge if you can or can't see the corner safely? Is that your own judgment? Or does every red light have a sign saying you can or cannot make a right? Genuinely curious.
I agree you can safely make a right turn on a red light depending on the local situation, it just sounds like it would be filled with exceptions for safety reasons. Hence the "don't cross a red light ever" feels much simpler and safer?