David Attenborough Voice

I always find it weird when guys refer to girls as "females". I can't help but read it in a Ferengi voice.
"Females and finances don't mix. Rule of Acquisition 94."
- My favorite thing about that is that, in DS9, a female ferenghi goes on to be the most successful leader of their people ever.
  
  Last i checked Rom was a male ferengi tho (I know you mean Ishta)
- Meh, it's a thing in the military because female military members are segregated and have different uniforms.
  A woman in the military isn't described as that, they're a "femal soldier/sailor/marine" and all their uniforms, regs, standards, and housing comes with that prefix.
  Even tho "female" descriptor comes first it's to ingrain that above all else they're a service member.
  It's about what the noun is.
  It took a couple years till I stopped slipping, and I understand why a service member would use it. That shit gets so beat intto you that you really don't even notice it. So when you get let out into the civilian world, it's hard to break the habit. Those people would appreciate being called out that what they're doing is weird for civvies tho.
  But yeah...
  99% of the people using it are just fucking weird.
  
  "Female
  <job title>
  " isnt at all as bad as just... "female", the prior is a clarifying adjective, the latter is using it as a descriptive noun.
  Like if I say "Female Officers suffer from above average sexual harassment" that statement isnt a big deal.
  If I say "You are a beautiful female" to a woman though, it sounds disgusting.
  I mean literally just compare these two basic statements.
  "Go hand this package to that Female Officer over there" (This just distinguishes the Female Officer from the Male Officers probably standing near her)
  vs
  "Go hand this package to that Female over there" (this sounds like you are an alien visiting earth and talking to me)
- I believe this correlates in a similar way to Earth's 7th Crack Commandment.

I think it's as weird and antisocial as the next guy to call women "females" but I also think it's weird that it's treated like not receiving approval from women is the worst possible thing that can happen to a man when implying that women need male approval is obviously sexist
- idk, some incels will certainly act like not getting approval from women was the worst possible thing that could happen to them, and then go and do something much worse to others
  
  yeah but this post isn't about incels. posts like these shoot strays at all men
- Personally I think that using sexual desirability as a point of ridicule is pretty toxic regardless of who is doing it and it's not going to help to solve the problem, but "not receiving approval from women" kind of is the worst possible thing that can happen for a lot of them, at least in their minds. The whole "men and females" thing has its roots in incel culture and they're well known to obsess over the tiniest facets of their interactions with women to the point of nausea, looking for any excuse to condemn women for not being attracted to them. They see not receiving approval from women as the ultimate condemnation of not only women, but also themselves. It's why people use it as an insult - it's effective against them.
  
  I really don't think making this about incels makes sense and I'll demonstrate why:
  Woman calls me unfuckable -> I'm an incel
  I call a woman unfuckable -> I'm an incel
  There's little logical consistency around the topic and it's kind of just become a loophole to cancel morality when it comes to attacking men. I'm really careful with my wording to avoid triggering this response because if I do, people stop processing what I'm saying and they start dogpiling.
- Agreed... but hear me out. Men usualy are more sex driven and usually (not every man of course but the majority let's say) will have sex with a random woman. Women on the other hand usually (AS IN NOT EVERY WOMAN) (I'm saying that so crazy people don't come after me with the "I'm not like that") need more conection. Women will go home and not have sex if no man was interesting enough to her and she won't feel bad, man will go home with the woman he thinks it's the ugliest (again USUALLY) if she is the only one that's up to it, because for men going home alone is defeat. If you rationalize that looks is not everything for women than a man that is rejected by every woman has a lame personality while woman that are rejected by men are usually based on looks.
  So yes, in this (not general but commom) scenario a man that is unfuckable is an asshole and a woman may be an asshole or may just be fat
  edit: is late and I don't have my glasses so sorry for some dumb english
  
  I don't really think things are actually the way you suppose they are. I think that's a cultural model that's been built up by media. It may have been true at one point but from what I can tell based on my experiences in real life, it seems to be more the inverse nowadays. All my male friends seem to be much more choosy with who they sleep with (preferring a real connection) while my female friends seem to be a lot more outgoing and likely to have sex without a connection. I'm talking about a sample size of about 20 people I've hung out with in the past year, but I'm also considering people I knew when I was highschool / college age.
  
  Agreed… but hear me out. Men usualy are more sex driven a
  The phrase 'the weaker sex' isn't about the strength of the body.
- If I feel the need to use the word "female" in that way, I am not looking for approval. I am only looking to evade "girl"/"woman"/"lady" traps ^["trap" as in snare trap/ bear trap etc. not the other trap. Now this was another trap. You see what I am talking about?] and trying to be as less social and as robotic as possible.

Some of these men call other men "males" as well. I used to call both genders by such "technical" terminology because I did not think it was offensive until a woman complained in a forum I frequented like 15 years ago.
TBH I feel annoyed that I can't use those terms because I know some guys use the term to intentionally dehumanize specifically women and I am not that sort of guy. But also I really tend to embrace neutral/technical/clinical language a lot because of a general disdain for romantic thinking and language.
Things are not more than what they are.
- anything you call people will offend some people….
  i’m sure some chucklefyck doesn’t want to be called a “people”… actually “you people” is often offensive.
  it’s all about context, and being as respectful as is reasonable… for example, “retard” literally means “slow”… you could retard the growth of a plant. mentally retarded was just a term for having severe cognitive disabilities that made you unable to interact normally and made you need care to live… but through a history of people abusing those people, and of course using that as an insult made it offensive and dehumanizing.
  with calling people “females”, i think it’s because it’s extremely uncommon except for when people are dehumanizing women… so when someone innocently use the term they can be seen as likely oppressive… due to context.
  also, given the transphobia thing, and scientific/anthropology defining female as the biological sex and woman as the associated gender, one might think you’re slipping transphobia into regular conversation…
  and of course people like simple heuristics so “guys who call women ‘females’ are likely bad people”, works well enough….
- It's worth noting that the words 'male' and 'female' are adjectives, not nouns, so if you want to be technical then it's erroneous to use them thusly. That is, it is correct to say "I am male", but to say "I am a male" is grammatically erroneous.
  In common speech, people don't tend to describe other human beings with these two adjectives, i.e. most people would say "she is a woman" rather than "she is female" (note, not "she is a female" because 'female' is not a noun). However, we do commonly describe animals using these adjectives, and colloquially the noun is commonly dropped. E.g., "it's a female" is seen as a perfectly normal way to describe a horse when it's understood that the other party knows that you mean "it's a female horse". This is why it is considered offensive to refer to a woman as "a female": it implies that she is an object, less than human and more suitably treated as livestock.
  
  I only have two dictionaries, but both have male and female as both adjectives and nouns. In what dictionary are you seeing them only as adjectives?
  Even dictionary.com has “noun: a male person” and “noun: a female person”, which goes directly against both your grammar point and your livestock point.
  Hopefully you’re just a linguistic prescriptivist with a preferred dictionary that doesn’t match mine. Edit: removed a rude remark
  That said, as a descriptivist, I accept that those words (as nouns or otherwise) are changing to sometimes be derogatory, so I try not to use them to describe people, just to avoid my intentions being misunderstood.
  
  But humans are an animal.

Sounds ok to me (male).
"The male wakes up at 7am, so he can prepare for his office work; he's tired and being worn down, yet somehow remains resolute. In this way, he channels the spirit of the emperor penguin and endures."
Remember folks, the gender wars distract from the class wars we should all be engaged in!
- For female it makes it sound like a Ferengi lol:
  "HOOMON FEEEMALE?"
  
  Please point out "female" in my post - I'll wait
- Remember folks, the gender wars distract from the class wars we should all be engaged in!
  Excuse me but the class war IS a war against the patriarchy
- I can multitask.
  
  Really, at full efficiency? If so, my hat is off to you!

The male looks in the mirror and realizes he'll die alone. He tries to distract himself with glass rectangles.
- Oh, fuck off.
  I'm not using my glass rectangle just to be reminded of that.
  
  Ponder the rectangle...

thank god i don't rate my value as a human to if someone else considers me fuckable or not.
that is ick and ew no matter which gender
- Calling someone a "female" to their face certainly makes you unfuckable tho.
  
  If your native language is English and your intent is to be demeaning, sure
  
  Goes for behind their back as well. Unless there is only straight makes, in that case it's another reason.

I had no idea that this term has a negative connotation to it. I knew it only as a very neutral, rational term. But when I literally translate it to my native language, then I'll start to understand it. Used in the given context, it's objectifying and degrading and I guess it's the same for English.

Seems like this is one of those things that women think will make men uncomfortable, but really winds up making their day because men are so starved of positive connection that even a neutral commentary on their life is refreshing because that means someone is paying attention to them.
- I wouldn't describe being called "unfuckable" neutral. But yeah they probably would like some level of attention, even the negative kind.
  
  For the right person unfuckable can be an euphemism.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been referred to as a “male” or “man” or “cis gender male” and it doesn’t bother me one single bit. I generally just avoid people who get offended over every little “wrong” word
- Amen to this man. People get too tied up in little words and stupid shit. So many bigger fish to fry but you'll get upset when someone uses the word female in any context.

I doubt any male would find this offensive. Call em males, they are afterall. If anything they will most likely play into the narration and make you say some absurd shit just for the lulz
- Women’s lib has a mere 50yrs on it and there’s still work to do. People lose sight of how new it is for women to own their own bank accounts and such.
- Maybe because men weren't seen as second-class citizens and aren't used to being objectified, belittled or physically and legally forced into a submissive role.
  I don't like leaving serious comments on a place like this, especially since you are right that's how most men would react, just felt I had to say something since calling women 'females' is actually quite seriously wrong (even though they are afterall) and the fact that men don't experience this behaviour as something scary it makes that clear. I like this meme because it empowers women to do as they please, and I think you do not mean to defend mysogonists who want to dehumanise women, but some people might read into your comment 'well the reason woman get upset by this is because women are [something negative], while men are [something positive]'.
- No most people will give you a very weird look if you refer to a man as a male in the pronoun sense.
  "How are you doing, males?" would make you sound like a fuckin alien pretending to be a human lol.
- "I doubt any male would find this offensive."
  nobody said they would.
  "Call em males, they are afterall. "
  go ahead, next time you see ir are talking about a man or men , say "hey, male" or "males like to..." see how they respond to what has become a derogatory, sexualized term for a person in casual conversation.
  the demeaning objectification is why insecure men say "female" and men are not addressed as "males".
  
  Sure? I'd do it all day. It wouldn't bother me on the giving or receiving end. it's a word with a definition and as long as it applies to the situation/male I'm speaking with it'll be business as usual. In fact, I'll use it to address every single male I encounter for the next 24 hours, in and out of work. That's how confident I am that nobody, that is male would bat an eye or care.
  What about the term ladies..is that 'socially acceptable'. It's got sexual connotations like ladies of the night. Which is another way of sayings street whore. Should that be shunned too? Perhaps we should just abolish English or even language altogether for fear that someone gets offended.
  I really do not understand these weird feelings people put on things, then expect the world to ensure they follow some rule of feelings. It's absurd.

I only use the term 'females' in the context of ... some kind of discussion of medical or biological studies ... or to differentiate between a girlfriend and a platonic female friend...
But I am guilty of the whole open fridge and sigh thing.
However.
If I turned around and David Attenborough was physically present, narrating me... I think I would be overjoyed and just try to get him to watch a nature documentary with me.
Or even better, go outside and just continue to be amused at his narration of me, and see if I can't get him to a park or something and see if he switches over to narrating the ducks.
- I'm not a native speaker, but I think it's normal to request a "female nurse" but asking for a "woman nurse" sounds weird. But saying "I would like my nurse to be a woman" sounds normal again
- Use woman when you need a noun, use female when you need an adjective. It's that easy
  
  Or, only time, use it as a noun in a clinical/scientific sense when you literally are distinguishing "people who were born with ovaries", IE "Females have higher estrogen levels" or something like that, when you are literally talking about the physical sex, and not gender.

Is it? Kinda makes you sound like a Ferengi IMO
- Spoken like a hu-man
  
  Pish these homo-sapians

The word "female" should not be a negative. What a weird anti-intellectual direction this world is taking.
Might as well ban the word "cloud" next.
- It's one of those things that didn't use to be negative but has been hijacked by shitty people and now has negative connotations depending on context.
- It's not the use of the word "female" itself, but the use of the word as a noun to describe a woman, because it is taken to imply that the woman is a mere object. As the other person who replied to you said: context matters.
  I use the word "female" (and "male") every single day when documenting on my patients, e.g. my notes commonly begin with "Patient is xx years old, female, [...]." This is normal and no one would take issue with it, because it is using "female" as an adjective and in a context where the information is important.

The opinions of people who think that 4,000,000,000 “Men” constitute a valid stereotype don’t matter a lot to me
- This tweet is clearly not about 4,000,000,000 men, but the significantly smaller subset of those men calling women "females". It might help to read a post before getting angry about it?

You wouldn’t want a narrator trying that on me. You’d be bored to tears.