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  • its probably because they see their kids as property

    • That's exactly it IMO. These are the same people who would own slaves if they could and abuse animals. There's a massive overlap between people who hit their kids and people who are racist/sexist and make eating meat their whole personality.

  • A society that eats it's children. Capitalist society sees greed and exploitation of lower classes as natural, and child raising flies in the face of this notion as it requires empathy and investment from society. Capitalists see this as a burden. In their eyes these are people of lower status that cannot look after themselves, and people of lower status who cannot look after themselves must be nipped and bitten until they pick up the slack or die.

    It is a deeply flawed and sick way to run a society.

  • People view children as property who the parents should have total and complete control over. I don't know why children are dehumanized in this way (probably patriarchy etc) but it's pretty clear that's where a lot of this stems from.

  • My siblings and I grew up experiencing frequent physical abuse over minor things. Now, as adults, the aftermath is painfully clear. One of my sisters ran away when she was still young. I’ve cut off all contact with our mother — she’s never met her grandchildren. One of my brothers struggles with drug addiction, another is chronically in debt due to a gambling addiction. The only two siblings still in touch with our mother are my brother who has a cognitive disability — caused by a grenade shard injury when he was a baby — and the brother who sexually abused my sister, and was then protected by our mother. This system is built on child abuse and neglect.

  • My guess would be boomers who are very vocal online and have nostalgia for being hit by their parents mad they couldn't do the same to their kids without fear of cps coming knocking.

  • Our minds shutdown when tackling incest and child abuse. Same reason why it's impossible to have a conversation about Epstein and it's insane implications.

    I became aware of Dorothee Dussy, a french sociologist who wrote a book called "the cradle of dominations: an anthropology of incest", this past semester and it was quite harsh but eye opening. I suggest looking into it.

  • Idk, yo.

    All I know is that my mom used to beat my brother and I for "discipline", and now I never speak to her and my brother has severe mental health issues. I just have moderate mental health issues.

  • Establishing that physical abuse and corporal punishment are normal early in life sets an expectation that high control institutions can exploit later in life. (Culture, political parties, religion, employers, etc.)

    Ultimately a key cog in the same machine of uniformity that foists strict gender roles, heteronormativity, neurotypical-first culture and so on upon us.

    If everyone is passively conditioned to behave in a tightly controlled way under threat of force by their ostensible guardians in youth, it’s not gonna seem unusual when various power players play off that same dynamic later in life.

    Notably, this creates cycles of abuse as abused children go on to abuse their children - a self-reinforcing dynamic. Quite convenient for the aforementioned high control institutions.

  • They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
    They may not mean to, but they do.
    They fill you with the faults they had
    And add some extra, just for you.

    But they were fucked up in their turn
    By fools in old-style hats and coats,
    Who half the time were soppy-stern
    And half at one another’s throats.

    Man hands on misery to man.
    It deepens like a coastal shelf.
    Get out as early as you can,
    And don’t have any kids yourself.

  • Was talking with my chef who's ten years older and had some pretty hard ass parents growing up while watching kids run around the restaurant and how as kids it was something neither of us had even considered. He went to the perceived and understood threat from his parents. For me it was cause I didn't see anyone else running around and the vibe was clearly not that, there are people carrying trays of drinks and hot food around, I can't recall ever even the passing thought. Also my parents figured out pretty early that a pen and a few sheets of paper would keep me happy in boring situations and that's a big part of how I got gud at art. They got that a toddler is a pretty impatient person and gave me a distraction that I'd spend hours at home doing anyway. Even other people my age growing seemed to either have overbearing or not giving a shit parents. Mine just treated me like a person, dude I work with now is still mind blown that my parents are not only gamers, when I visit we often play video games together and we did when I was growing up too and pretty often, at least 3 times a week we'd boot up the GameCube together and play some Mario Kart or melee and sometimes other shit. Back on n64 my dad and I became a really good doubles team in Mario tennis when he got shoulder surgery and had the summer off with me. They have their own switch and have 100% completed Mario Wonder. And they kinda just went along with my going full stenchcore mode for my late teens until almost recently, they just kinda seem to understand that I will do what I want anyway so best to just be supportive. Hell, they even understand that things are waaaaaay more fucked for me than it was for them at their age and are willing to help out because of it. Rent has skyrocketed at Mach speeds, grocery prices had tripled over the last 8 years or so let alone when they were my age and wages are stagnant and good jobs aren't there. They get it and they get how lucky they got. I find it offputting when parents talk down to their kids let alone anything that would be considered abuse legally.

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