It's Women's Fault

Having read your story, I think you'll actually love what bell hooks has to say, here. When I said patriarchy affects men and women in different ways, your story is exactly what I mean. Patriarchy puts men into very narrow boxes of what is deemed "acceptable," and destroys what is outside that boundary. Women are impacted more by patriarchy than men are, but The will to change is a call to action to liberate both women and men from its shackles. It's a deeply empathetic work that touches on stories very similar to yours, not a condescending authority piece. hooks writes with a deep love and a desire for herself to grow as well, frequently she speaks of her own mistakes and negative feelings towards men such as her father, and how she came to forgive and love him.

Trust me, you'll love this book by the sounds of it.

To the average person not caught up in culture war issues, the OP looks like the exact mirror of “women need to lower their standards and be okay with being my therapist/mom/girlfriend, while I change nothing about myself”. That's a disgusting take, as is saying that men are lonely because they objectify women and have no empathy.

On their face they're both shitty misogynist/misandrist viewpoints.

It's bigotry and sharing bigoted memes is wrong, regardless of which 'side' is being targeted.

In addition, the underlying message in both of these viewpoints is an attempt to frame the real loneliness epidemic as something that is fabricated by 'the other side' and not a real issue with real victims.

It can be read either way.

It's also simple enough in structure to be generated slop and the OP could just be an automated account.

It's hard to say what is true, but on the face of it we should all be able to agree that it would be a bigoted opinion to express literally, out loud and in public.

(Like the OP is doing)

Not everyone loves meandering around a park or beach. Though I'll admit its good for our brains to do so. It always feels like a chore to me, I get bored.

Also was it alcoholic cider? That would explain why it was fun.

Also those places aren't really great for meeting people and even then you don't want to make those locations the only dating locations.

Are you under the impression I'm conveying there is no problem?

The problem with the term "toxic masculinity" is what exactly can we describe as "positive" masculinity? Is masculinity only toxic, or are there positive things that aren't feminine?

Nice rack

You can't talk about women like that bro

Boy have I got a video for you!

Wow yikes. You sound like fun at parties. Go find someone to care about.

For the record, I think there is a loneliness epidemic for both genders.

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self-inflicted

Sure, bud.

Yeah happens even before marriage.

I've seen no evidence that these kinds of traits are inherently biological.

Regardless of the fact that we have significant evidence that these more "new" forms of masculinity that incorporate less domineering and aggressive mannerisms are beneficial to men, I simply haven't seen any evidence that these traits are biological.

In the same way that when you don't socialize a child to prefer certain clothes or toys, (or stigmatize against them) they generally just go with what they prefer in the moment along lines that don't match the gender binary, from what I've seen, the same is generally true for behaviors. We're heavily influenced by our cultures and by extension, our upbringing, to a degree that explains why these mannerisms are commonly expressed along gendered lines.

Valid perspective; but I think it's quite clearly implied given the scale of the issue. The male loneliness is real, and shouldn't be written off as shit misogynists say, even if it was popularized by them. This kind of discarding might hurt men who have nothing to do with misogynistic talking points, opinions, or actions.

Anybody can create a meme, but too many people get too much of their "information" from them.

Not as laughable as the assumption that "needing a large gender affirming car" was the actual reason someone bought a car, without knowing anything about them except that they're male. Maybe that proves psychic powers are real too!

need a large gender affirming car

???

This is a projection of your own brainrot sexism, nothing more.

Don't try to make it sound like you ever mocked a woman for having a large car, either, you're not fooling anyone with "people", lol.

Puh what a rant.

I actually just want to correct you on one thing and I am also Not sure what you really meant.

But we dont get 100% of our cells from our mothers. We get the mitochondria from our mothers. The cells that enclose those mitochondria are perfectly 50/50 after fertilisation.

Honestly, this argument comes across to me as a horrible mangling of different pop-sci concepts to construct a victimology. There's good evidence of the mechanism by which stress and trauma induce epigenetic changes in organisms. (Selective methylization regulating expression of genes.) There's some evidence of epigenetic changes due to physiological trauma passed down through germ cells. But it's a huge leap to ascribe mtDNA damage to psychological experiences.

The mitochondria have a degenerate genome, a tiny amount of DNA with (looking it up) 37 genes to support the processing of energy into ATP to power the cell. It is susceptible to epigenetic changes, which leads pretty directly to a number of metabolic disorders, but I can't find any evidence that those changes result from life experiences of an animal. The idea that mtDNA has accumulated generations of damage from sexist trauma beggars logic, too, because there's just not a lot of room to collect damage, and that damage leads to health problems fairly directly. If one got every cell of life from one's mother, in turn, she got it from her mother, and so on all the way back to the first eukaryotic life. All of those generations of trauma, how are we even still living?

Furthermore, the assertion that "men created the patriarchy" ignores actual history and context. One simply cannot ascribe a singular intent to a class comprising billions of individuals across time and space. At best, one could describe patriarchy as an emergent phenomena of societies and cultures. About half of the individuals in those societies and cultures were women, so you'd have to conclude that women helped create patriarchy, unless you deny their agency or intelligence.

A woman is absolutely a threat to another human. Any animal that size is. That you think women are harmlessly is ironically, misogyny.

Yes all people are potentially dangerous.

But the biomechanics in adults are very different and need to be recognised. Statistically the physical intimidation is mostly one way when you account for sexual dimorphism in height, weight, reach, muscle mass etc. There are always exceptions but women live in a very different threat environment. That isn't misogyny.

If people tend to hate what they fear and mysogyny is literally hatred of women like what the fuck? Perhaps some men are terrified of emotional harm. I can understand that but perhaps they would be better off with some therapy or a bit of self awareness.

This is a perfect description of the male and female meta. It is why males are stronger. Not to protect or lead, but to control through fear and violence.

It's a priviledge men developed a higher sensitivity to oxytocin to compensate for a lower expression of the stuff. Enabling men to give a damn about someone other than their desire to dominate. Men can love their partner, their family, friends, their pets because of this.

Chimps ain't that lucky, and males would rather watch an orphan die from neglect (and eat it) than take care of it. The males are known to kill females for showing assertive behaviour.

Same goes for prolactin in the brain, that makes humans more monogamous and increases a desire to protect something you care about. It never was a male feature before, but it became one in humans. It even peaks after the baby is born and the father is exposed to seeing his baby. Over time, similar adaptations to the brains of pregnant women, are seen in father's brains. Which is amazing.

Men ain't that bad, but old habits die hard. Men are more aggressive, stronger, more impulsive and less afraid of consequences on average compared to women. Those who were better at avoiding male aggression, lived longer. Hence why estrogens play a role in stimulating brain development in areas essential to risk assesment, consequence sensitivity, resistance to suicide, thinking ahead, planning, reading emotions (of themselves and others), learning and memory, reducing own aggression, communication and impulse control. Giving women an edge in academical performance despite there not being a statistical difference in intelligence. (Imagine if men had these boons instead...)

While all those obvious "big scary male" traits in men makes them seem like a bigger threat, women are well equipped and know how to dominate and eliminate people indirectly.

As a fat highschooler, ehen, as a fat woman highschooler, i got rejected so many times. Never once did it make me hate and distrust men. Because every person is their own.

Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

https://youtu.be/NNnIGh9g6fA

Please take the time to listen to this lecture. It will genuinely help you and it's very entertaining imo.

Testosterone causes enforcement, not aggression or dominance of women. Enforcement. Sapolsky did a famous study on baboons about this, amd we also have a human example - Buddhist monks who go around "enforcing" peace by chanting and praying etc.

Men hate women because they believe they should, they abuse women because they give themselves permission to do so. No other reason. Anything else is an excuse and justification for it. Read "Why Does He Do That?" By Lundy or "Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist" to learn more.

Bigotry is a product of narcissism, which is based in delusional beliefs. A narcissist may never get better. A racial narcissist example is a white supremacist ("my race is best"), which is obviously delusional, which causes narcissistic supply every time they confront it and refuse to let the delusion be corrected. They then will act out, eg say racist slurs, to enforce their racial narcissism on others to satisfy their brain chemistry (it's deeply uncomfortable to resist unlearning delusional beliefs when faced with evidence, so they satisfy the histamine with adrenaline rushes included by being antisocial).

That attitude existed before Tate came onto the scene. Try again.

You can keep digging the trenches if you want. Why do you want to alienate people for the sake of it?

Every lonely man who doesn't fit the played out internet stereotype of an incel. You likely see several of them a day.

People who are not misandrists?

People believe it because they're bombarded with memes (like this one) on social media that push them towards believing it, and sometimes reposting it.

It's a meme targeting lonely men by equating them with incels.

Except it makes the link with loneliness, which has nothing to do with incels. By doing so, this kind of post litteraly says that alllonely men are like the worst incels.

It is insulting. And it is directly feeding the narrative of the fascists that says that feminists are mere anti-men instead of pro-equality.

This même is a blend of arrogance, ignorance, disdain and malice. Even the fascist are rarely doing so bad.