Trump accused of ‘market manipulation’ with tariff pause

isnt there a video of him talking about how much him and his friends made from it? its not really an accusation at this point, he manipulated the market.

100%, its incredibly obvious.
No, I was watching the bond market. The bond market is very tricky. I was watching it, but if you look at it now, it’s — it’s beautiful. The bond market right now is beautiful. But, yeah, I saw last night where people were getting a little queasy.”
Hard to believe these are US Presidential quotes. Sounds more like some teenage barista smoking pot.
- Don't shit on teenagers smoking pot by comparing them to Trump lol
  
  Even the people smoking pot know he's an idiot who doesn't know what he's doing.
  Source - I smoke pot.
  
  Haha you got a good point :)

He made the announcement at 1:18, but there was a high volume spike in SPY at 1:02. He then introduced some friends, like Charles Schwab, in the white house later and said they had made billions. This crash was also the first time MTG bought stocks.
Should be an SEC investigstion with actual consequences for once. Probably won't be, but there should.
- Hasn't Elon fired most of the SEC staff, to make sure they don't get in their way...
- Hahaha an SEC investigation? I haven't seen a single working class win at the federal level for about 16 years now

I don't see how any of this matters.
He is literally and figuratively above the law. He will face zero consequences.

Yeah, no shit. His first term was 100% him playing golf and using the treasury as his personal piggy bank, why the fuck would we expect anything different this time around? Wake me up when someone actually does something about it.
- You'll have eternal sleep
- When I'm in a doormat competition but my competition is the US people:
- Sounds like you’ll get to meet Bender and Fry
  
  Hey! I resemble that statement!

anyone else buy the dip? because you know all his criminal friends did.
- I don't, but yes this is very blatant
  
  If the FTC/SEC were staffed, they'd be very upset.
  
  must be the biggest insider trading event in history
  
  There must be a way to surface this info? Surely there are known "insider" accounts one can track?
  
  What is the source of this chart? I'd like to use the image on other sites, but I can't without knowing what the source is.
- I was just talking to my coworker at lunch that I’ll create an account and buy the dip. By the time we got back to our desks, I saw the news of the pause and everything shot up.
  
  By the time it hits the mainstream media, it's too late for you or me.
- I bought the dip once, years ago. Made like, I donno. Couple hundred bucks. Sold all my crypto at the same time. That was cumulative with the other thing. Made a couple hundred bucks.
  
  That's the great thing about capitalism: anyone can make a ton of money, so long as they have a few tons of money.
- Nope because that only works if you have money to buy with
- I got a little lucky in that I filed my taxes on Sunday and made my 2024 IRA contributions then. Only some of the funds were available Monday but I was able to buy. I would've bought regardless of the price (I don't really time things) but it worked out nicely.

100% he is making bank off this. So are his buddies. What DOGE was all about, setting up the US Gov't to be fleeced as a cash cow for the crime family. We need these criminals removed and full security audit on our entire gov't computer system. Every US citizen is currently at risk due to negligence but these fools. That doesn't even cover the extensive list of civil rights violations and oh...you know, constitution violations. But it matters not unless the are actual consequences. But money makes those go away.
- It’s not even clever. Him and Elon are made for the same hell.

And nothing will happen. But i bet a new trans athlete will win 5th place in an event somewhere to divert magas attention.
- Didn't that already happen? I thought they were all butthurt about some pool competition, like it fucking matters.
  
  My favorite is people complaining about trans competitors in chess
  
  Yes but there hasn't been a new trans athlete winning 5th place
- Sorry you got distracted, but you need to go
- Distraction is a primary job of capitalist media. Even better if it's attacking a marginalized group. Always has been.

I mean it's not like he went on Truth Social shortly before he announced the pause and told people it was a good time to buy stocks or anything... right?
- According to my mom, this is a good thing because he's helping regular people make money in the stock market.
  The MAGAs are actually cheering this because they think they're being invited into the club, when he's just brushing some crumbs off the table for them to fight over in the alley.

I mean, dude literally commited treason. "Market manipulation" is quite tame in comparison.
- Multiple treasons, and all the people who would punish him for his market manipulation just benefitted from it so they're only going to thank him
- Russians and everyone else out there who ever wanted a slice of the pie have been attacking our social discourse for decades, amplifying the worst voices on both sides of every single issue so that people tune out and stop caring. This is the known doctrine for undermining democracies.
  Most people right now STILL don't care, at least not enough to have an opinion or be bothered to do anything. This is the result of deliberate sabotage against our nation and the number of people who really understand this is so small that it doesn't matter, it won't be enough. Even if this wave of corruption is ended tomorrow, there are thousands more oligarchs and grifters waiting in the halls to move right in.
- Sometimes “The Untouchables” are best brought down by financial crimes
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Ness

I've been saying this all along. Not just about this time, but he has pulled off a similar trade scare every month since he took office, with the same result - he announces tariffs, the market tanks, he rattles his sabre a bit, then pauses the tariffs, and the market rises again.
This has been the third, and biggest one, probably because he needed to make it a big one as he cried wolf for a third time. Which means the next time he does it, it will have to be even bigger.
Its clearly market manipulation, of a type that only president could do, but only if he were corrupt enough.
- Unfortunately, if it were only the president who's corrupt, he would have already been impeached and removed. Even if there were a question about whether he does or does not want to become an authoritarian dictator, ignoring everything that is hinting at it, he is digging himself in the sort of hole that he can only survive in as long as he retains power and I'm sure he knows it.
  
  We can still end this democratically, but the window is rapidly retreating.
- They're pumping and dumping like mad so when the major crash happens they can buy buy buy. You think corporations are consolidated now...just wait. The same that happened 100 years ago is happening now. Just people are too fucking stupid to see it.

I feel no one looks at truth social cause screw it but shortly before the announcement of the pause on tariffs trump did post to buy now.
- The volume spike was an hour after that post

And? Who’s going to do anything about it? The stupidest people in this country gave a con man unilateral power to do anything he wants, what did they expect?

Impeach. 3 times at least before it will work.
- LoL - who could impeach him?!
  
  you.
  actually.. edit..
- Clearly impeaching him again will work this time guys. Just one more time guys, that'll get him! /s
  
  Yup 3rd time the charm as the ancient saying goes.

He has like 30 something felonies and openly admitted to rigging the voting computers. The man could commit murder on stage and still somehow continue being president.
- Got a source? I remember him saying Elon was great at the voting computers but that's not exactly the same thing.
  
  Parent commenter may be recalling this story but not sure
  Beginning at 2:31:24, the full quote reads:
  Musk] journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent like a month and a half campaigning for me in Pennsylvania, and he's a popular guy, and he was very effective. And he knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like, in a landslide, so it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon.
  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-musk-vote-counting-computers/
  
  Lib qanon.
- He did? We have him on tape trying to get votes that didn't exist, but haven't heard much about voting computers being rigged.
  
  He vaguely implied Elon was rigging them, saying he had a "little secret" that was going to win them the election

The American legal system will be unable and/or unwilling to deal with it. Best chance is to send HIM to El Salvador if he ever relinquishes the office.
- Absolutely not. Crimes committed within the u.s. such as treason get adjudicated in the u.s.
  
  See my first sentence.
- why not to the antartic islands and have the penguins deal with him.
  
  The penguins don't deserve that.
  
  Penguins have gone through enough already.
  
  With the Guano Act the US "acquired" lots of islands all over the world. Choose one of those bird shit covered rocks and put him on there
- He’ll flee himself.
- Fight fascism with fascism. It's the liberal way.
  Seriously tho, the "legal system" is the problem.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

This should be considered an act of war by...everyone, really. Everyone should pull their stuff out of the US market, be they ordinary Americans, Norweigian oil bonds, or German gold.
Trump will pull this shit again, he has a pattern of pulling the rug, and will keep doing so long after there is no more rug.
- The fake leak about pausing tariffs earlier the past few days was the test to see how much money can be moved with one announcement
- there's 90 days window he can do however he wants and tank the market
  
  I mean China still has a 125% tariff and the market is somehow doing great.
- Just keep the retaliatory tariffs and say that the world governments don't have time and resources to deal with a child playing with tariff sliders like it's a fucking 20 year old Paradox game. Until he's out of office, or preferably in jail.

Should have stuck to simple, safe insider trading like the other guys do. Always with the flashy showing off.

Insert George Carlin quote number 18647
- Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker and tits.
  
  Isn't that quote no 12653?
  
  And since we are now in episode two of this shit show there are three more words: fart, turd, and twat.

The only reason he reversed course is because the bond market was shitting the bed. If no one was buying our shitty bonds, then they couldn't issue the debt to pay for the massive tax cuts for the rich they're about to pass. The insider trading wasn't supposed to start until the market bottomed, they will absolutely try this same play again in three months.
- It seems like bonds are favourable when issued by a country with a stable government. Won’t investors consider this a sign of an unstable government and possibly continue to dump bonds?
  
  If they have any sense, yes. Perceived trustworthiness is important. Mr. "Art of the Deal" of course can't understand this and couldn't deliver on it even if he did.
- This is what people need to be concentrating on. The cost of the government borrowing shot up 13% in a couple of days. This stupid fiasco just cost the government $70B in yearly interest payments alone and is why Trump backed down.
- They can' literally print money. They don't even have to print it.
  Ironically, it would weaken the dollar enough that the rich would lose money on their tax cuts. So in that sense you're right. I just don't want anyone thinking that the government actually needs to find all the money it spends.

Jail Trump! Jail Trump!
.....and he pardoned himself.
Hold on, is he raping two old ladies on main street while also shooting a dog, stealing 10 cars, developing an illegal DNA chemical and polluting the environment?
.....and he pardoned himself.

There was definitely a rumor that caused a market spike two days ago until the white house immediately called it "fake news" which the media took at Trump's word as they always so gullibly do. Well as it turns, out, this "fake news" got the duration of the pause right to the exact number of days.
Now everyone seems to be pretending they don't remember that this happened just two days ago and I just don't get it. Shouldn't somebody be asking why some random people on Twitter seemed to know Trump's plans in advance?
- Maybe Trump got the idea from that rumor. Self-fulfilling prophecy. /s
  
  You don't even need the "/s" on that statement.

And that's not even in the top 10 most heinous crimes he's committed
- This week even.

Is it 125% for China and 10% for everyone else currently?... for 90 days?
Or is it 10℅ across the board for 90 days?
I'll wait for his next tweet to make all my speculation pointless. Fuck this guy.
- This is why countries need to make export tariffs in retaliation and leave them on during the chaos. Let the prices of everything in the US soar but allow them to collect none of it.
- The former. 125% for China, 10% for "everyone who didn't retaliate"
  
  Except the EU who did but apparently Trump didn’t know about it until a reporter asked him. Only the best people.

With all of the absolutely blatant market manipulation he's done just since he took office, one more charge isn't going to mean shit when there haven't been any consequences yet, and probably won't be any time soon if ever. Anyone else breaking the law this openly and this often would in the very least be in jail without bail awaiting trial, if not already firmly in prison.

He's been accused of a lot of things. Doesn't mean anything until he gets punished
- It is kind of amazing how selective the justice system is. There is a man who spent 30+ years in prison for stealing a loaf of bread. Apparently he had a criminal record prior and that meant he had to be thrown in prison for that long for any subsequent crime... but I find that utter bullshit.
  
  It's kind of amazing how "justice" doesn't exist at all.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
- Then there's the 34 felony convictions of Mafia Don...

Arrest his corporate benefactors for insider trading. They’ll find out loyalty is only one way, or worst case scenario pardoning clear criminal behavior goes on record
If the conman-in-chief somehow made himself above every law, above Constitutional checks and balances, we have to start by removing the criminals that enable and support that, or worst case scenario take every opportunity to highlight it to low information voters
He can only flout the law because he has supporters that enable criminal behavior. Remove them and this all comes tumbling down

This grifter needs to be jailed now
- You misspelled hanged until dead.
  
  Americans wouldn't. China does.
- I heard the French have a solution for this

im so tired.
I know that’s the point but please just let me go
- You're tired because you've been reading the overly-amplified nonsense crafted by agents working both sides of every social issue for longer than you've likely been alive.
  Your exhaustion isn't just the point, it's the goal, it's the goal for all of us, and it's literally the reason why almost half of America still approves of our president and current situation.

I'm waiting for the market to either stop responding or crash and never recover since you can't trust this fucking asshole.
- It will recover though. That's the point. They crash it to buy it all up and consolidate power even more so.

You know he'll never face charges tho, right? I mean SCOTUS essentially gave him carte blanche to do anything he wants, whenever he wants to whomever he wants, no questions asked.

Not market manipulation, he tweeted in the morning that it's a good time to buy, we should've just trusted the orange man /s
- If you’re some twitch character, you already cashed in. I am not sure how to explain to some cartoon: pull all your money now you absolute troll
  
  "/s" means they're being sarcastic. Relax.

And what will happen? Fuck all. And that’s why America is a fucking joke. If any of you on here did this it would be punishable. But you have someone as president who actually made himself go above the law..

Trump manipulating the stock market???!!!! Say it ain't so!
Well I am shocked, I tell ya, absolutely shocked! 😧😣

so when the fuck do we stop accusing and start charging and arresting? I'm so sick of these headlines saying that "people are saying Trump bad! no way :3" like...what are we DOING about it though??
- Who's going to charge and arrest him? The best we can hope for is massive nationwide protests or him failing to rig the election in 2028 and the next administration charging him if he doesn't flee the Russia first
  
  Optimistic take: economic damage could lead to the Republicans losing the house and senate, followed by Trump's impeachment.
  
  I am aware that it's wishful thinking. I feel the same way you do, but even an arrest is better than nothing. it will take protests, it will take oversight and everything that comes along with it to fix this, absolutely

Lock him up! Lock him up!

25th Amendment
- I - as my personal opinion - think he is more a case for the 2nd amendment...
- 25th Amendment isn't for corruption.
- Seems like the second is more appropriate.

Of course it is.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
THIS looks like a scam, doesn't float so there's some doubt, it sounds like a scam, yep, it's a scam.

He doesn't care. He has immunity.

no shit sherlock. its a fucking tariff. its gonna effect the market and pricing. these assholes are shorting the fuck out of whatever is profitable to do so. and controlling that ourtcome on several fronts.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a quack I mean duck... well obviously that couldn't just be a duck right? It HAS to be a dog right? Like... I know it looks 100% like a duck and everything but we aren't the kind of place that just lets ducks run things. Trust me I have some friends who know a lot about dogs and they are sure that is a dog!
Nah it is definitely a dog.

Well teah and ain't shit going to done about it.

On a side note, I am absolutely fascinated by the size of the man's head directly over Shit for Brains right shoulder.
That fawkin 'ed is HUGE! It's like an orange on a tooth pick.

That sounds like market is a shitty invention if it is so easy to manipulate it /s

‘Got em’

Look, no one will ever care

Just like every single politician. Ever heard of chuck and nancy?
These people are all trash.

Who cares? Nothing will happen, there will be no punishment. None of his supporters care, why should I?
- Oh, you rather not hear how you're getting fucked over just so that later you can be all outraged nobody told you?
  Get that "who cares" attitude out of here.
  We all care.
  Anyone who says it does not matter is a Russian bot for all I care.
  
  Ignorance is bliss friend. At this point there isn't much I can do but to protect mine and myself. We're in a limbo period where folks aren't mad enough to revolt, but are mad enough to be pissed off. We need to get a whole lot angrier before real action can happen. Holding up signs and being annoying isn't going to affect real change with these people. So until the populace is at the angrier stage of things I don't care to hear about all the illegal things the Trump admin does, I can't possibly hate this guy more than I already do. All this info does is piss me off and ruin my day.
- Imagine the memes! So much joy for libs! It's THE RESISTANCE!!!!! \s
- If you're saving for retirement, it means you should not invest in American companies.

I honestly don't believe that trump is doing some intentional stock market grift. That would require foresight, planning, and self control despite ego.maybe someone gave hime some. Instructions or something but he sure as shit doesn't care about those.
Next up Republicans are gonna try to paint him as a loose "Pitt bull" when really he is just a loose cannon they can't control.
Their faces aren't worth the cost of eggs