You see ladies, it's like this...
You see ladies, it's like this...
You see ladies, it's like this...
I get the joke and I know this is gonna be a buzzkill but - is it expected that from now until the end of the universe there'll be no ad with a man explaining something to a woman/women because of some sexist assholes in the past?
I had the same thought and hesitated before posting this, but the facial expressions on the women really made the image and I couldn't help myself. Especially the woman on the right with blue sleeves.
This really looks like a stock photo for mansplaining that the university just copied.
They do look like they are all quite bored or at least barely interested and like he's explaining something they know well, and therefore don't need an explanation of.
Yeah, it would be good if everyone looked engaged and interested. Here everyone just looks miserable, which is funny even without the thought of mansplaining. It's like "our courses are very boring and you wish you would've stayed in bed every day".
Yeah, yeah, I didn't mean to insult you or your post, I just had this thought about mansplaining in general.
And it's true the picture is kind of ... extreme from certain point of view :) I mean regardles of one's opinion on mansplaining, but if 'mansplaining' as a term should have a picture ... then this is a very good candidate :)
Yeah I agree body language screams 'we all already know this'
The one to the right of bluesleeves also appears to be looking at her with what looks like sympathy
I mean as long as you don't make an ad where it's one man explaining to a group of only women who all look kind of annoyed, you're probably going to be fine.
Yeah, throw a dude in there to be annoyed too, that way we get it's not sexism.
Reminds me of RGB's answer to "When will there be enough women on the Supreme Court?"
Her answer was "When there are nine". We're a long way away from being able to have 9 women on the court without that being some controversial, remarkable thing. We're not nearly as far away from 9 men on the court being uncontroversial and unremarkable.
It won't be until the end of the universe. It'll be until the stereotype stops ringing true. Which we are a very, very long way away from. Be real dude, it is not in the past even a little.
As others have pointed out, there's way more to the photo than just a man explaining something to a group of women.
It helps when all the women in the ad don't look like they're getting a mansplanation and wishes he would shut the fuck up.
I going to choose to 100% agree with you and also laugh at the post.
Yes. That is expected.
Lol. The past? You're being obtuse on purpose
No, there's literally one right there
Maybe once we eradicate sexism and thus, mansplaining.
You see ladies, the pee is stored in the balls
And also, an erection is just pee build up
And I promise not to get any in your belly button. No pregnancy for you!
I think it's fair to point out that there is a trend where men will do this to women in situations where they would never do it to another man. The way people use the term annoys me more often than not but I still think it's a valid concept.
You underestimate my need of superiority, every one will deserve my explanation, men, women, children, fish, cat and dog, and the explanation of my explanation and it's prequel and sequel. Yep, I have adhd.
When you're sitting in on a condescending lecture, how do you know that the person giving it wouldn't be just as condescending towards a man as well though? I feel like there are two answers here:
You want to be treated like a man (if you are a girl)?
I don't understand why people are surprised there are gender differences. It's supposed to be. And we are supposed to react to eachother, be different to eachother. It's natural biologically and physically and this is completely obvious.
You think women don't explain to men how something works a million times a day? I hear it so often I can't even count. It's perfectly natural.
Agreed. I tend not to shut the hell up when you get me rolling on certain topics - it's not a dig at the people I'm talking to, that's just how getting excited do.
Now a days I just preface it with "feel free to shut me up" and if that disclaimer doesn't do the trick, it's on the other party. :P
It is a very real thing and it happens at every level of organization. Talk to pretty much any woman engineer or manager and you’ll be able to get very many stories of men explaining the woman’s area of expertise to them. I’ve seen it happening everywhere from office stand up meetings to academic conferences where people have specializations as narrow as evolutionary models of pro-social behaviors in apes.
Yes, many of us are enthusiastic about our areas of expertise. I can go on for paragraphs about the evolution of sociality. That’s a completely different thing than trying to explain what misogyny actually means when talking to a person with a PhD in Women’s Studies.
It's like double standard, it's just hypocrisy.
As a cis male, I've learned to keep my mouth shut irl.
I'm sure many see it as a "good, let someone else talk for once" thing meant to make me check my privilege, but I mostly see it as pressure taken off me.
Have at it, I'll do as instructed, even when I'm aware the instructions won't address the issue, or will be counterproductive. Externally, I am but a perpetual learner/observer in the game of life. You'd have to put a gun to my head to get me to agree to lead anyone or anything, or even offer what I think about anything, and I'll usually just claim not to have an opinion if singled out. Win/Win.
I can't stand doing stuff that I know is fruitless. I've flat out refused to perform tasks that don't make any sense at work, and I usually get a thank you for it when someone eventually figures out why I was opposed to it in the first place.
I'll do busy work all day. Doesn't bother me one bit as long as I'm getting paid. I don't believe in the values or motives of capitalism or endless profit made by workers being handed to owners is in any way a noble pursuit, so I consider the act of going to work to have no point beyond getting enough to eat under a roof. I'm in IT, but if a supervisor brings a barrel of marbles and wants me to count them, you got it boss.
Our system of greed just isn't meaningful to me. I can't believe in it, I wish I didn't have to associate myself with it, but I do get hungry, so that is the extent of my interest in participation. Enough to do menial tasks while I silently judge my employer's gluttony, obvious dishonesty, and sociopathy until its time to go home. Murica.
‘straya, mate, where blokes are blokes and sheilas are sheilas.
I think it’s basically trying to make men think there’s a bunch of women at the university who will pay attention to them.
Jokes on them, nobody cares
“See ladies, it’s THIS long, I swear”
Mansplaining is sexist for condescension.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Edit: Misandrists love a double standard.
I've been told I mansplain things because I'll ask someone if they understand something and then explain it anyways.
What they don't realize is the amount of times I've asked someone if they understood something, have them say yes, then explain it, and they had no idea what I was talking about.
I'm not doing it to be condescending. I'm doing it so I know you actually understand what I'm saying.
I'm also autistic so it's probably just that but it's infuriating either way.
I find it gets a lot simpler, stupid people are adverse to being told anything by anyone who knows more.
I've never once felt condescended to just because someone was explaining something I understand, I feel vindicated that someone agrees with me and knows what I know so we share common grounds for communication.
The problem is people conflating actual condescension with explanation.
That was an explanation, if you still don't understand I'll grab some crayons and we can find out your favourite flavour.
That was condescension.
If anyone still needs help understanding I'm happy to take questions. Those behaving in good faith will be explained to, those choosing to be belligerent will be condescended to.
And those that think you can fight misogyny with misandry, well you need some more books in your kitchen.
That's a joke.
Have you thought about just letting people fail, even if they say they understand and you know full well that they don't? Failing is an important learning experience that often leads to a more positive learning outcome.
I had a tendency to do exactly as you described when I first started working in academic/corporate settings but someone else pointed this same thing out to me and it's honestly been a gift that keeps on giving.
A condescension in which men have traditionally excelled, hence its association with men.
I think you may need some more experience with women. :)
Really, all this gender bickering is so infantile. We are mostly the same, but have different strengths and weaknesses. Guys are better at some things, worse at others, in general.
Women are not some flawless creature ok? You will see with time if you haven't. :) Only in teenage Hollywood movies are they there as some form of meaning of life, and I guess it feels like that at that age.
Oh so you're saying women can't be as condescending as men? That is sexist! Women can do anything men can do just as well.
It's hard to be humble when you're just so goddamn good
Oh honey, bless your heart.
My own mansplaining degree from this college has not served me as well as I expected it would.
That's why I like the internet. I can talk to people and explain things without anyone bringing up real life issues like that. - explained to you by a man
Do a masters...
Master of Splaining
Im a white guy who was born wealthy and raised in the Northeastern USA. I get one of those by birth, right?
A very helpful degree
Yuck.
Better than a masters in chick squabbling
I start to understand why the global south are rejecting western civilisation.
Master's in Mansplaining: Course Overview
/s
First of all, well done.
Secondly, where do I sign up?
Ackchually, I know a thing or two about online enrollment, ahem, well, you see, signing up for a course at a university is a rather intricate process. But don’t worry, I’m here to guide you through it, step by step, even if it seems rather obvious. After all, I'm quite familiar with the nuances, and you might need some... guidance.
I know this may all sound terribly complex, but with time and perseverance, I believe you can master the intricate art of online registration. Good luck! 😉
Actually first, let me tell you about how you can get scholarships. I'll explain..
This is all wrong.
The thesis project should really only be about the course, as it's something you just learned that everyone in the class already knows.
Based on your username, you definitely seem like you should know a thing or two about mansplaining.