Heaven on earth = Communism
Heaven on earth = Communism
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Haven't you heard?
Hell is other people.
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The problem with communism is it assumes everyone wants that same thing. There are some evil baddies that don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. They only care about the money and the power and are usually the ones that eventually become the leaders.
If someone can tell me of an actual communist country that has worked, I'm all ears. I'm sure you could do it on a small scale, because you can weed out the baddies. On a large scale though? The greeds will take over just like anything else.
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“Communism can’t work because greed, so we should stick with a system built entirely around enabling and promoting greed because that will solve the greed issue.”
Riiiiightio.
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So you have an example of it working for a country longer than 20 years? Let's hear where it is.
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If you stick with that system that enables and promotes greed, you can then regulate it (rather than make greed illegal and then be surprised that it's not working). We'd need to actually see socialism somewhere before we can judge which approach is better (both will eventually be consumed by capital), but socialism does have serious persistence issues that need to be considered.
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I mean, if the CIA weren’t actively undermining communist governments and causing them to collapse, or funding spoiler or puppet candidates to distort the communist government’s growth and ideals, because communism is a direct assault on capitalism and their capitalist overlords… then maybe you’d see a functioning communist country…
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Maybe, maybe not. That’s an untested theory. Though I do think communists tend to overstate the power and influence of the CIA and other western sabotage. They certainly had an influence but they were not solely responsible for every single domestic problem the PRC and USSR had. Many were clearly attributable to their own policy decisions.
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Meh, you're still thinking of scenarios that aren't our reality to make it happen. You're just saying that the CIA are the baddies and the greeds.
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I think y'all put way too much credit in the competency of the CIA lmao
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Resilience to outside interference and internal perturbations is one of the criteria based on which a system has to be evaluated.
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Communism does not assume that everyone wants the same thing, and it does take on account the "evil baddies". This is all on the theory.
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It doesn't even need to be bad people at first. For example under a socialist society can you pay a teenager to mow your lawn? What about if you promise to help someone find a teenager to mow their lawn and take a percentage of the money? What if you do it a hundred times?
Edit: Engrish.
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I have to agree. Maybe that teenager loves this idea because they're kind of shy. Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, etc., started out as exactly that, but then they became the greeds. Also, there are tons of small businesses that don't became complete assholes and have employees that live a good life. Capitalism can work, it's just having a heart attack right now.
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Oh, we all have to die first? Well shit, there's always a catch
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