Israel announces expansion of military operation in Gaza to seize ‘large areas’ of land, ordering residents to leave

centrists in here pretending they didn't spend a solid year cheerleading genocide.
This is their policy. They're just mad that their second choice is carrying it out for them.
- You saw people on Lemmy cheerleading genocide?
- Fuck liberals and centrists. They are handmaidens for fascists.
  
  Lmao why don’t you come do something about it then if it’s so easy?
  
  I'm a liberal, what the fuck are you on about?

Lebensraum
- I love the irony
  
  I really don't love it

Palestine has the right to defend itself.
- Palestine was genocided by fascists, who won, and are winning elsewhere.
  I think I've just switched sides, I'm on team climate change extinction. We inflict cruelty on all other life on this planet... And OURSELVES. Literally no one is happy, even the capitalists who are most responsible for human misery trying to fill the black hole in their chests with ever moar capital, even they can't be made happy in victory as they'll never have enough.
  Earth needs to shake us off its back for the sake of terrestrial life. To put it in terms the rest of my species understands, we're a liability to the larger organization, and bring no redeeming value to the planet. As such, we should be summarily terminated.
  
  I always thought if the horrible side of humanity peaked again, we would have learnt our lessons and stop it.
  But instead the world order has approved Israeli crimes in Palestine.
  Weekly massacres, ceasefires broken by an international criminal (Bibi neten yahu)..
  Shameful, hypocritical, can't believe our money is used to finance killing and not control this Trump recession.
  Doge could save a lot of fun money if they stop financing Israeli crimes against humanity, but instead they're seppuku-ing their own agencies
  
  . As such, we should be summarily terminated.
  Don't worry; we're working on that.
  
  This comment stinks of eco-fascism...
- So does Israel
  
  As Hamas is an insurgency working inside Israeli-occupied territory, Israel does not in fact have the right to defend itself in this case. They only have the right to engage in counterinsurgency efforts after guaranteeing the rights of all occupied people under international law.
  
  Nah. Praying for Iran to do the needful
  
  No

Mods are censoring a lot of discussion in this thread.
Just another reason not to take their decisions seriously.
Hope we can get some new, better news communities that take moderation seriously instead of just using it as a tool to push their narrative.

Mods, please chill out, this isn't reddit!

Guess what it is not your land.

- Mods are censoring this guy's comments because he's pointing out how joe and kamala also support genocide.
  This mod team should not have their decisions respected because it's clear they are proud to abuse their power.
  
  The reason given was I'm a troll apparently, glad to see this is just Reddit again, gotta have the power tripping mods

Something something but Harris is worse! Am I doing it right? Sorry, I'm terrible at impressions. I can't quite nail the arrogance.
- It wasn't "mean things" but blatant propaganda that cost the election. And now we have even more genocide. That's what's fucked up. I think it's fair to express that frustration without having people spin it.
  If you're tired of hearing it, I'm also tired of hearing how a million Gazans are being displaced so that a kleptocrat can do as he pleases. Something that could have been avoided by not discouraging voters.

Huh, weird. I thought peaceful donvict was going to end all this, unlike "Genocide Joe" and Kamala.....
🤦‍♂️ 🙄
- C’mon Jack, Biden was still shipping munitions until his last days in office. None of those assholes we’re going to stop this
  
  Yeah but at least we could have retained our domestic civil liberties and our own right to civilly protest the genocide under the other guys? Now we have nothing, less than nothing.
  
  Yeaaaahh, but would it have been the exact same? Would it have been juuuust as bad as it is now, and will become, soon?
- Huh, weird. I thought peaceful donvict was going to end all this, unlike “Genocide Joe” and Kamala…
  No one said that.
  Progressives tried to warn centrists that they would lose if they continued their support for genocide. Progressives were not significant enough to listen to, so they're not significant enough to blame.
  Unless you want to admit that you were wrong and that democrats should have listened and dropped their support for genocide.
  
  Um, lots of people said that, including donvict himself.
  And when did I say Democrats shouldn't listen to progressives like me?
- Biden would have at least pretended to care! Because that's what good guys do.
  
  Hey! biden cared! He cared what netanyahu wanted!
- democrats arnt celebrating with the maga at all. keep your russian trolling to yourself.
  
  "blue maga" is not a thing, LOL. Also, I don't know when I was celebrating Cheney or Bush being on anyone's side...
- They're not going to want to hear it. For them, wanting your country to not fall apart equals being okay with genocide. It doesn't matter that everything is much, much worse. There is even a comment saying this is our punishment for funding genocide. Families that are being broken apart, rights stripped away, growing tensions with literally everyone, and a fucking DOGE department, that's our punishment for trying to not make things not as terrible as they could be.
  I'm so fucking sick of them going "Oh, so you don't care. You're okay with bombing people." No, no we are not. We are not over here giggling happily at the horror going on. I didn't see anyone in the town halls or protest going, "now, we're okay with genocide, but only if we have rights." Just because we are also worried about our country does not automatically mean that we don't care anyone else.
  The people in my country are also important. I want them to have Healthcare and food and basic rights. Trying to make the best choice out of two shitty choices is not us going "well, genocide is a okay." Over, and over, and over we were told there's no difference between who was elected. BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. This is the fucking difference. I don't want to focus on fucking Musk and Trump. I don't even see people speak about the genocide as much anymore because we're drowning in Trump/Musk news. The protests in my area have shifted because we can't protest if we don't even have the right to do so. We can't vote against anything if we CAN'T FUCKING VOTE.
  I wish it was as simple as just not voting, or at the very least not having a two party system, but we did not have that option last election. It was either Harris or Trump. Did I fucking want Harris? NO! Did I believe she would be, even if by a small amount, easier to deal with than Trump, yes. Yes I fucking did. But I fuck me I guess for caring about Gaza and my countrymen.
  
  There is even a comment saying this is our punishment for funding genocide. Families that are being broken apart, rights stripped away, growing tensions with literally everyone, and a fucking DOGE department, that's our punishment for trying to not make things not as terrible as they could be.
  I'm the punishment guy. First of all you ignored the latter half of my comment, where I said that this contradiction between civil rights at home and genocide abroad was only going to result in Trump. You can want things to happen all you want, but it was never going to work in reality. Second, yes, exactly. It's your punishment for eliminating the option where you oppose genocide out of hand when you had a whole year to change course. I can barely accept saying "it's too late to change things now so vote blue" in October, but "hold your nose and vote for her" in August, or—even worse—"Biden can't step down now" in February? Calling anri-genocde critics of the party MAGA or Russian trolls? Fucking unforgivable. I have seen the way Arabs opposing the genocide of their friends and family were talked about here, and the "leopards ate my face" comments on every article about the death of a Palestinian. Not every American is directly responsible, don't get me wrong, but with a crime as big as the merciless murder of at least a quarter million people almost every American is one way or another within the radius of moral culpability.
  Tl;DR: Didn't want MAGA Hitler? Then you should've opposed the damn genocide.
  
  Agreed. With donvict and his zero-empathy crew, the terror and misery are going to be brought here and waged against much of the country, in addition to in Gaza. In addition to him being even worse on Gaza.
  The galaxy-brained so-called "leftists" (I question how many actually are) would have us believe that allowing donvict into office is just fine, and them abstaining from voting or throwing a vote away on a joke of a third party even makes them righteous.
- Well, that's one hot take, I guess.
- Biden was in power when my friend got firebombed in beyruth last year you hypocritical scum.
  Who did the firebombing? The US? I understand the US's complicity in Israeli crimes against humanity, but there's still a difference in degree of culpability.
  
  I'm sorry, did you see a whole lot of Democratic voters that wanted that to happen? I don't know one Democratic voter that wants any part of it, including, yes, selling Israel weapons.
  Again, the only real choices we had were, Biden, then Kamala. Or donvict. Biden and Kamala had the same position on Israel that DC has held for years. No, we don't love that.
  This, vs. donvict who is going to be even worse, especially on doing things to throw red meat to the crazy end-times xtians that only "support" Jews in Israel because of silly stories they've made up...and he is obviously going to be worse both domestically and abroad on many things that don't involve Gaza, as well.