Ruletificial Intelligence
Ruletificial Intelligence
cross-posted from: https://pawb.social/post/22215920
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Ruletificial Intelligence
cross-posted from: https://pawb.social/post/22215920
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"A computer made this" is so dumbed down from what is going on that it's wrong. The actual process of generating images from noise is a very fascinating one and still seems like magic to me, but it is far from the computer creating something from nothing. Then again, to get metaphysical, humans who do artwork get their spark of creation somewhere from something they've experienced. Go too deep and it becomes a Matrix "what is real" discussion.
i always like to call it hallucination, it's significantly closer to how it works both technically and in effect.
What messes with me is how many AI videos I've seen that are so similar to dreams. The hallucinations that AI produces are very similar to the ones our brains produce, and that makes me feel like more of a meat computer than usual.
I think fabrication is a better term than hallucination because of the double entendre of it being industrially fabricated and also being a lie.
Yes, good point, and it's incredible that so often the hallucination is close enough that our pattern-matching brains say, yes, that's exactly right!
i dunno if this is the point of the post, bt im pretty sure the comic is generated..
my reasoning, in case nayone cares:
so lik--- what is the point of dis post? ai image bad? i agee, bt is there another point?
EDIT: srri if it was obvious to evrione thad the comic is fake... to me it was not, so i thought i share what i see
The hand holding the painting in the first panel must be huge lmao
*optimized XXXXL-size for simultaneous choking and finge- I mean, uh, nevermind.
Sole people just have large hands, OK?
oh ur right!!! i complitli missed that!! ha!
Yep the subversion here is that the comic itself is AI-generated. So the humor is based on the misdirection of the speaker and the fourth wall break.
The fact that a lot of people missed this means the quality of AI images (in some cases) is finally approaching human levels of quality, further emphasizing the shock of the speaker.
Arguments about whether or not it’s ethical aside, that is really quite the technological achievement.
yisyis i see it exactli lik dis. i alsuu thought thad, bt then i alsuu thought hmmmm i wondr if this is so obvious that dis is the main jok... which apparentli it is sooo it gud <3
Translation in case others struggle with reading this reply:
I don't know if this is the point of the post, but I'm pretty sure the comic is generated.
My reasoning, in case anyone cares:
- Painting isn't the same in first and last panel
- Small imperfections in the ears in the second and third panel
- Second and third frame look almost identical, but are not. It doesn't make much sense to redraw a scene when it's exactly the same... at least to me.
So like--- what is the point of this post? AI image bad? I agree, but is there another point?
EDIT: Sorry if it was obvious to everyone that the comic is fake... to me it was not, so I thought I share what I see.
Given the context, it wouldn't be surprising if the comic was at least partially AI generated.
The redrawing of the third frame is to show a pause before the response. At least that's how I interpret it.
Like looking at someone who is showing you something blatantly obvious as if it were new to everyone. Pausing, then responding. "Well duh"
yesm i kno...
I don't get the first tweet, the four panel comic. Are they excited because ai can generate images that imitate art, or are they worried because no one seems to take it seriously?
Edit:
Looking at the real thread and looking at the other ai bros, I think I've come to the conclusion that the poster is shocked and confused that people aren't as excited as they are about this.
This for example was one of them.
I interpreted he's taken aback that no one is acknowledging or celebrating his super neat prompt slop.
I looked through kimmonismus' profile, and they're a huge ai fan. So I think you're probably right.
i dun think so...othrwise he'd hav said "i made this" n not "a computer made this"... cuz lik... hes not praising himself and not claiming its his, bt instead says that the putr made it..
Yeah, I think, there's just some tech folks and tech bros, who think AI is going to change everything. Then there's other tech folks, who are simply fucking tired of the hype cycle. And then there's the majority of people, i.e. the non-techies, for whom AI has largely no bearing on their life. From the position of "it's going to change everything", you would probably be alienated massively by there being people who just don't think about it at all.
i thinksies the guy is like "woah, computr cn do dis! dis crazi" n peeps lik "yea so what" n he agn lik "nununu u dun realize. dis is scari!!! lik - bad scari!!!"
i dun think the guy liks it, othrwise eh wouldn look so scared kinda in last panl
I think the methods they use to make all this 'ai' art is really interesting, like diffusion models and stuff, but the fact that they are literally stealing from artists and creators without compensating them is pretty bad
What the actual fuck do you think human artists are doing?
getting paid for their work, ideally
which is why people hate AI, because it means people do not get paid for their work
i mean i'm all for shitting on people who think AI should replace humans, but surely it only hurts the message to call AI content ugly when it looks completely nondescript? At least to me it comes across as a bit dogmatic.
Ai image output is ugly. It just averages everything at a massive scale from stuff its trained on. It might look cohesive enough to be ignorable but under scrutiny its just generic and sloppy at best.
Not to mention everything being so glossy all the time
you seem to be talking about a specific kind of content, completely ignoring that AI can be made to fart out anything you want.
Like the whole point is that it just takes parts of what it's been fed and recombines it into an output, right? so it only makes sense that it should be capable of making beautiful things, because it was fed beautiful things. if you insist that everything AI models put out is ugly then you're kinda implying that all art is ugly, which obviously cannot be true.
AI art is soulless, which is a very different thing from being ugly. Most corporate things are surface-level pretty but fundamentally soulless.
To me the main thing that's ugly about it comes from how most of what gets posted is from the top few services, which intentionally standardize their outputs so that any prompt will result in an image that is generically 'good quality'. So then you get stuff that's all in the same boring style, like the style of the OP comic that you see in (fully generated) AI comics everywhere. The actual range of what AI images can look like is much larger than what people are getting from ChatGPT.
Your ignorance is showing, maybe you're thinking of a year ago but it's 2025.