The only chart where Italy clearly outperforms neighbouring countries! 🍕 A side note for any European who wants to feel superior: the Italian minister of infrastructures has declared recently, speaking about a deadly bus accident which had strongly shocked public opinion, that the vehicle being electric can not be ruled out as a cause for the event, implying that endothermic engines are still preferable (source).
That's what you get when you vote dumb fascist politicians into power. I bet it's not the first time some erratic explanation was given from one of those right wing politicians.
Yes, agreeable (I would not have used those words though, the real danger is not in this minister nor in his party). But why do you think they were elected in the first place and why is their consensus soaring day after day? Are people just "dumb"? Misinformation? Distrust of more moderate parties who did nothing to prevent the current crisis? This is a place for discussion.
The bus being electric, means the firefighting procedure is the same as with electric cars: wait for it to burn up... along with anyone still trapped inside.
Electric is the future, but don't forget that:
Gasoline ignites at -40C, needs oxygen
Diesel ignites at +50C, needs oxygen
Biodiesel ignites at +130C, needs oxygen
LiPo batteries can ignite at -200C if punctured, will burn underwater
Be careful with that statement because that's what Oil is pushing now:
They changed the "climate change ain't real" to the "climate change ain't bad" and later into the "it's too late, let's enjoy it while it lasts" message.
The goal is ensuring people do not require action from their political representatives, be it by ignorance or by resigning.
The other prong of attack is blaming consumers/individuals. This is useful for them as it keeps those that want action busy (recycling, planting trees, using bikes, buying EVs or using trains, avoiding plastic, etc.) and shifts blame on to the rest.
Not that any of those actions are bad, but aren't at the core of the problem, like blaming someone for wasting water for taking a shower while you have an olympic pool.
You know what is also harmful propaganda?
To shift the entire blame on some faceless companies or politicians, or "rich people", ignoring that you're part of the rich people on this planet. You all are the people those companies produce their shit for. You all are the people who vote the people responsible for their inaction into power. You all are who shun and ridicule all the green parties, politicians and activists.
You can continue to do that, but you only do it so you can continue to drive your cars, to continue to buy cheap products from countries like China, to continue to consume highly polluting animal produce on a daily basis, to continue to uphold your lavish lifestyle while actual poor people have fuck all (including barely any emissions).
Your type of comment is nothing but greenwashing too and I'd not be surprised if some leaks in a few years come out that will back up the fact that oil companies were pushing for that too.
So what I happen to have the same stance as the oil industry?
I consistently try to vote against politics who are not doing anything for the environment.
I didn't vote initially for Macron because he barely does anything for the environment but then I had to choose between Marine Le Pen (far right and often considered as racist) or Macron. Both of them really bad to fight against climate change.
In my country at least, you only have an illusion of democracy with our current system. And Macron works only on announcement that they carefully draw back a few months later when they already have benefited from the political gains of announcing yet another ambitious climate plan.
Maybe the oil industry says this is lost because they know they control fully the politics in power.
Again, I do as much on my level and I'm about to embark in a 10h train journey across France to avoid taking a 2h flight. I'm trying.
I'm just saying we are delaying the inevitable which is on its own already a good thing.
But this mechanically cannot work. Our president is elected for 5 years and has no reason to lose votes for something that will be an issue for the next generations. And we cannot elect people who care about the environment because the populist far right parties are too strong right now and gathering support through xenophobia and racism.
Do your best for the environment but just keep in mind that we need to prepare for the worst for the next generations.
I think we are doing a disservice to them to tell them we are actively trying to fix climate change when the CO2 emissions are very clearly increasing.
Oil subsidies have never been higher. It's fucked up.
If one person has been killed in a fire, that's bad. If the fire killed two people, that's worse. If it killed 100 people, that's even worse.
There is no magical point where you say "Oh, there are 42 people that we could rescue, but we won't, because 600 people have been killed already and that somehow makes the rescue pointless".
If we can reduce suffering by just a bit, and delay the worst just a bit, then it's worth it.
It sort of is because the actions we would have to take would cripple our economies and directly affect the people living in our rich nations. That's why there's constantly resistance against even the slightest bit of climate action, even if it is just a few wind turbines or solar panels, which is the bare fucking minimum. But god beware we also add co2 taxation on products and people lose their collective shits. You can see that barely anyone is ever voting for green parties and politicians who promote this shit, because it would directly affect them. You can see how people react towards activists who protest to have exactly those type of actions being taken. The majority does not care and that's a simple reality that we have to start to accept so that we can move towards more drastic steps to take.
Don’t worry about it. Everyone dies eventually, and most of US will be dead before it gets unlivable. Just enjoy the fall of humanity! It’s gonna be a wild ride.
There's another set of graphs on that page that do show we are setting more high temperature records and fewer low temperature records over time, which while not really what I was saying, is still relevant and interesting (and scary)