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"Putin is clearly winning Russia’s hybrid war against the U.S. because Americans don’t understand how they are being manipulated. One of the main difficulties" - December 11, 2020. Heritage Foundation

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Putin Is Winning Russia’s Hybrid War Against America

December 11, 2020

charging an employee of a Russian troll factory known as the “Internet Research Agency” with “criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States” (related to election influence). These cases notwithstanding, Putin is clearly winning Russia’s hybrid war against the U.S. because Americans don’t understand how they are being manipulated.

REPEATING: "Putin is clearly winning Russia’s hybrid war against the U.S. because Americans don’t understand how they are being manipulated." - December 11, 2020

One of the main difficulties in countering malign Russian influence stems from divergent understandings of hybrid warfare. Russia considers hybrid warfare a form of conflict which includes strategic uses of economic, diplomatic, and influence operations, along with the use of military forces and espionage. By contrast, the U.S thinks of hybrid warfare as actions or tactics used before a conventional war. While the U.S. thinks it is managing pre-conflict aggression, Russia already considers itself in the midst of a strategic battle disguised as competitive aggression.

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Russia has won the Hybrid War, USA lost

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  • "because Americans don’t understand how they are being manipulated." - December 11, 2020

    "a central part of a new system of political control. And to understand how this is happening, you have to look to Russia, to a man called Vladislav Surkov, who is a hero of our time. Surkov is one of President Putin's advisers, and has helped him maintain his power for 15 years [as of 2014], but he has done it in a very new way. He came originally from the avant-garde art world, and those who have studied his career, say that what Surkov has done, is to import ideas from conceptual art into the very heart of politics. His aim is to undermine peoples' perceptions of the world, so they never know what is really happening. Surkov turned Russian politics into a bewildering, constantly changing piece of theater." - BBC, Adam Curtis, year 2014

     

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    Egoism / egomania / LOL / mocking / mockery / amused / hilarious / WTFBBQ / ... ++ !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world / absurd humor / surreal humour / simulacras everywhere / ... !NAFO@lemm.ee LOL LOL chambers / anti-citation / anti-quotation / anti-intellectual LMFAO / tactical cleverness - year 1951

    “Everything in our background has prepared us to know and resist a prison when the gates begin to close around us . . . But what if there are no cries of anguish to be heard? Who is prepared to take arms against a sea of amusements? To whom do we complain, and when, and in what tone of voice, when serious discourse dissolves into giggles? What is the antidote to a culture's being drained by laughter?” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, year 1985 !BackTo1985@lemm.ee

  • By contrast, the U.S thinks of hybrid warfare as actions or tactics used before a conventional war. While the U.S. thinks it is managing pre-conflict aggression, Russia already considers itself in the midst of a strategic battle disguised as competitive aggression.

    US has no "hybrid" options against Russia. Sanctions and confiscating Yachts don't prevent its high production levels. It has high gold production in addition to all other important resources and food. The Russian people know US to be evil aggressors in this war, and have a stronger determination to fight/resist than Canada does in the face of its own US aggression, because Canada has corrupt/bribable political leaders, and easily prone to division and gaslighting from those politicians.

    Russia is accused of amplifying GOP division messages. It's unclear that US sources wouldn't be enough to create hate against immigrants, vaccines, trans/queer/diversity employment mandates, but GOP being thrilled by such hate, means they are by far the main responsible party.

    Factual evil about the US, including admissions from politicians and mainstream media, and its BS propaganda that pretends to be informational warfare against Russia, but really is purely for domestic/western brainwashing, is general informational/factual warfare that democracies are more vulnerable to have truth influence them. US/west has still had remarkable success in maintaining anti-Russia propaganda. Israel and Iraq wars have far more detractors, and in Israel's case, truly extreme fascism is required to punish detractors from ruling class.

    • US has no “hybrid” options against Russia.

      I agree. Russian population does not have the Apple iPhone / Apple iPad / Samsung Android / etc addictions of USA. Russia has much more domestic control of media systems. So it isn't possible to wage exactly same kind of war that the "Internet Research Agency" and Cambridge Analytica worked together on in late 2012 / early 2013.

      US has no “hybrid” options against Russia.

      Since year 2022 the IRA / CA content has all been fed into large language models as training material off the Internet. So Russia/Kremlin no longer controls this, and beyond the original 5,000 patterns the LLM systems can come up with any number of new variations. The only option is to teach "media ecology" and reason thinking to every person over say age 11 in society, a massive education campaign on how all people can distinguish fiction vs. non-fiction. Along the lines of Carl Sagan's 1995 book.

      People, all the people, have to abandon their addiction to mocking, mockery of out-groups. That is incredibly difficult, I strongly fear the USA will not recover and will continue to fall into more and more anti-human self-destructive anti-science behaviors, as defined by Carl Sagan in 1995 as it has since every year since 2013 when the "Putin Media Invasion" started.

      general informational/factual warfare that democracies are more vulnerable to have truth influence them. US/west has still had remarkable success in maintaining anti-Russia propaganda

      I don't see that. Joe Rogan said just last month that he would rather go to Russian than Canada. I do not see people responding with discussion about what is bad about Russia, morality of good and bad. I see people just LOL LOL LOL LMFAO "Joe Rogan dumb" LOL, inside the Kremlin 5,000+ simulacra patterns of meme-speak. Calling people dumb and stupid is just a cult of out-group hate, it isn't actually teaching and educating. We need people to truly stop the mockery and focus on reality / truth / science, and morality of good. Not favoring "bad" like they are now.

      • Russian population does not have the Apple iPhone / Apple iPad / Samsung Android / etc addictions of USA.

        98% of Russians have a smartphone. Some social media is blocked, but NYT is not. VPNs available. West blocks Russian media more than other way around. What separates Russia from west is not access to opposing narratives for those that seek it. It is tolerance for divisive misinformation. Democracy has morphed into craving the latter.

        only option is to teach “media ecology” and reason thinking to every person over say age 11 in society

        More people would realize that provoking a war on Russia is neither profitable or moral. Belief that CIA is truthful and wants everyone to be happy, and so "values based supremacy" justifies diminishing others with any and all lies necessary to keep you committed to the weapons and oil profits available from perpetual operation.

        Joe Rogan said just last month that he would rather go to Russian than Canada

        That is about divisiveness political issues, immigration, trans, vaccines that he somehow would feel a need to speak against in Canada, and fakes that he would have a harsher reaction than the welcome Tucker Carlson got for speaking BS there to a semi friendly audience. He wouldn't just go to UFC event to enjoy the event, he somehow needs to grandstand in Canada, where he wouldn't need to Grandstand against Russia policies. Political hacks, despite your wish for better critical reasoning skills, will have profit opportunity in disinforming their less acute adherents.

  • LOL
    "The U.S. should confront Russia with evidence of their malign behavior"
    There lies the problem. As if they wouldn't show it if they had any.
    Usually the regime press doesn't talk about evidence in their constant demonising and slandering of Russia.
    Wild accusations and blaming them for every bad thing that happens in the west based on nothing more but "it is believed, sources say,alledgedly"

    • LOL

      That's the real true problem of the world. People think bad things are hilarious and funny. Morality issues of being attracted to self-destruction of earth, wrecking good, etc. Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Vlad Putin, terrorists, murder, killings LOL LOL LOL amused all the time on social machines.

      slandering of Russia. Wild accusations and blaming them for every bad thing

      The bad things are people's attraction to hate, dehumanization, morality problem.

      It's only useful to identify that it comes from Russia to understand it. The lack of morality education in domestic Russia is a threat to the world, if they decide to set of nuclear bombs or spread other weapons of mass destruction (diseases being the cheapest and easiest) because they are attracted to LOL LOL amusement and mockery of humanism, it doesn't really matter where and which nation it matters that nobody bothered to help people understand morality of good from bad.

      All human beings can become monsters and choose bad and avoid good. The concern is the entire world. Technology to wreck good keeps advancing, it's what is in people's minds and attraction to bad that's the threat to every person on the planet.

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