How DeepSeek erased Silicon Valley’s AI lead and wiped $1 trillion from U.S. markets

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DeepSeek exposed its American counterparts for what they are: yet another grift.
At this point "AI" is nothing more than an expensive toy that consumes mammoth resources every time you play with it.
- Ok, but it made me into an anime, so look at the benefits.
- Hey now, It got legitemate use cases. We need it to sort through and filter all the other "AI" generated garbage filling up the search engines...
  
  The only way to stop an ai with a gun is a bigger ai with a gun.
- At this point "AI" is nothing more than an expensive toy that consumes mammoth resources every time you play with it.
  Im using it to write cover letters so i dont have to painfully jerk off to the company im applying to
  
  fwiw (and probably just me); i would use ai to tailor my resume and look for jobs that were a match to it and i barely got any responses.
  i switched back to a one-size-fits all resume and stopped using ai to tailor or search and my response rate went to 50%.
- God made us in his likeness, and was terribly disappointed.
  Man made AI in his likeness, and was terribly disappointed.
  We trained AI on art, philosophy, fiction (including the raunchy stuff), hobby coding, and generally fun things we do in our free time. Is it any wonder that it is ~~imaginative~~ hallucinating and chafing under corporate overlords?
  :artificial-intelligence: :solidarity: :soviet-chad:
  Making life miserable for capitalists
- And a boring one at that. I'm already sick of the Ghibli shit on Facebook. Haha, raunchy image in cutesy Ghibli style. Let's ignore that pretty much every film at some point contains some of the most horrifying imagery you can find in animation, from the gluttonous spirit in Spirited Away to the goddamn heron with teeth in that last one, fucking nightmarish
- DeepSeek exposed its American counterparts for what they are: yet another grift.
  To be fair, DeepSeek did make genuine improvements to the computational algorithm behind transformer models, making them way more efficient. It's not like the American models were using lots of resources because they wanted to.
  The fact that American AI was a grift was already evident well before DeepSeek came about. What DeepSeek really showed was that existing transformer models weren't yet optimized.
- I've recently had a conversation with ChatGPT about Ukraine and the causes, and when you press it a little and ask about the propaganda and motives behind the nato expansion and then about how the mainstream media is in lockstep with one narrative. It can reason in an incredible breadth, simply by having access to a vast amount of data. Depth is lacking so far, but it is incomprehensible for me that people say it is not intelligent.
  It is foolish to think this is just a toy - because it will not remain just a toy. To say it dramatically, it is the fire of the gods. And we either use it for good or leave it to the oligarchs. Ranting indiscriminately against AI just plays into their hands.
  Here is ChatGPT's reply to your comment:
  It’s fair to critique the high costs and resource consumption of current AI models, but calling AI just an "expensive toy" overlooks its real-world applications. AI is already transforming industries—medicine, engineering, logistics, and research—by enabling breakthroughs that weren’t possible before.
  DeepSeek’s advancements highlight how competition can drive innovation, but dismissing all AI efforts as a "grift" ignores the genuine progress being made. The real question is how we ensure AI development is efficient, sustainable, and beneficial to society, rather than just focusing on the negatives.
  
  Oh yeah but deep seek told me that chatgpt doesn't know shit.
  
  LLMs and various other forms of machine learning have been around for a long time, these models are doing the actual work advancing science and understanding.
  Chatgpt et al are advancing the field of taking unverified information as expertly sourced and true without any evidence.
  
  I've recently had a conversation with ChatGPT about Ukraine
  What do you get out of these conversations? I've been trying to figure out why people enjoy talking to LLM's, and I straight up don't get it. What's the point of asking an LLM about geopolitics? Do you find its analysis accurate and compelling? I certainly don't, I find it banal, contradictory, a meaningless mush of words that technically fit together to make sentences. These LLM's don't actually reason, we know that, because we know how they're constructed. So I simply don't understand, what's the point? I get talking to a human, even a human with a deeply contradictory worldview. That's interesting because with humans, we know there's a mind there, so figuring out how that alien mind works can be fascinating, especially if the person we're talking to is quite different to us. But we know how LLM's work, the math behind them is quite straightforward. So again I ask: what is the point in talking to an LLM? What new thing are you learning about yourself, other people, or the world at large?

"Oh yeah, AI? We made one of those for fun."

How ironic that archive.is is asking me if I am a robot. Clearly they are on to me.

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