Tesla is banned from Canada EV rebate program, gov freezes suspicous $43 million in rebates
Tesla is banned from Canada EV rebate program, gov freezes suspicous $43 million in rebates
Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Thank God they're not just letting that shit slip
What kind of first-world county would let it slip?
Glances nervously in US
We don't merely let it slip by nowadays. We lube up the grifting slide to make it faster.
US? first-world? What? No! It really isn’t. Like health care is worse than some “third-world” countries…
Maybe keep your shitty politics out of your shitty product next time, and then you won't face political consequences.
In this case it looks like they commited fraud, so it's not even just political.
That's not even what happened. I work in the auto industry, and they very blatantly abused the rebate program with what are almost certainly fake vouchers.
Some individual dealerships reported thousands of sales in a single day, and that would be a miracle even at the best of times for a well established dealer. There's no way Tesla is declining around the world and still selling miraculous numbers of vehicles.
Yeah I was really confused by the story, surely they actually have to provide some kind of evidence. Surely the Canadian government didn't just run it based on honesty. Wouldn't they have to provide the VIN or something.
But the very least I would have assumed that they had to list the name of the person they sold the car to.
I wonder if there is the possibility of the shareholders suing Elon because what he's doing is so demonstrably damaging the company. He could totally have done this and not had the big PR problem by just not doing random stuff without running it past anyone. But nooo.
People weren't happy about him essentially buying a governmental position but what they really objected to is all the subsequent things he did.
Trump calling this "Domestic Terrorism" and threatening Tariffs in response in 3.... 2.....
“Illegal boycott!” Was one of the stupidest things I’ve seen Trump say and that’s saying a lot
The jig is up
Option 1: Tesla fraudulently filed rebates
Option 2: Tesla filed a backlog of rebates when they realized they had to
Both are possible, but everyone is jumping to conclusion that it's option 1, while option 2 is the easier answer.
Also the government said they're going to let all the other rebates that this pushed out at the last minute get the rebate regardless of if these were legit or not.
Option 2 should be easy to prove, so why didn’t they do that already, like literally the same day they were accused of it? Then their funds wouldn’t have been frozen.
Especially considering this was months ago
I imagine they probably don't want to release the information that would prove it if they could, and if they did it'd be redacted enough that no one would believe it anyway. It also costs money to fight endless things like this.
Ultimately, if the government comes back and says its legit, then people will believe it. If it's fraud, there should be punishment.
That whole 1.5 billion accounting fraud story last week, I don't think Tesla said anything official about it or done anything at least to specifically disprove it, but the FT has now retracted the story saying they made a mistake.
So I'm cruising through the rules surrounding Canada's iZEV program and contrary to all of the media coverage I can't find any requirement that the vehicle be "delivered".. It's even described on the official Transport Canada website as a "Point of Sale" program. Delivery at the time of sale doesn't seem to be a requirement.
Further if you look at the process, which also references this as a "Point of Sale or Lease" program, and the e-forms the end purchaser IS involved with this and consents to Transport Canada contacting them about their purchase.
The number of vehicles does seem high but only in the context of individuals however the iZEV program allows for Fleet Sales and some entities could claim up to 50 vehicles. Now all of a sudden what would need to be 8,000 individual sales could theoretically be as low as 160.
After reviewing the process and the forms it seems believable that Tesla slammed a bunch of legitimate sales into the system at the last minute. It's a LOT less believable that Tesla made up all of these sales as the documentation requirements mean they'd certainly be caught the minute anyone checked.
It still means they should have sold something crazy like several dozens of full fleets per hour on the short span of a few days. Or imply that just 4 companies bought 2000 vehicles each, in just two days, during a weekend!. Nobody has ever done or does that. They filed the same weekend that the rebates entered pause. It is fraud.
Now freeze the editor's paycheck - no editor worth that much should be misspelling 'suspicious' in a headline.
Canadians taking on the Nazis they should send canned food to tesla next.
What's going on in Quebec?
The federal government is following the same strategy as some provinces. British Columbia has recently banned Tesla products from its EV charger rebate. Nova Scotia just announced that it has excluded Tesla from its $2,000 rebate at the purchase of a new EV.
Quebec just relaunched its own EV incentive program today. It will come into effect next week, and so far, Tesla’s Model 3 and Model Y vehicles are still included in the list of eligible vehicles.
Quebec always marches to a different drummer. Nevertheless, I expect they will be dropping the Tesla vehicles from their list sooner or later. They may just not want to make any more adjustments so close to a launch.
after what US has done tariff wise I'm surprised that they haven't blocked all US companies from it.
Put local parasites in prison...
Claw back all the payments