"As a centralist, all points must be considered. From giving women rights, to exterminating the culturally inferior."
"As a centralist, all points must be considered. From giving women rights, to exterminating the culturally inferior."
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also, I would like to kill any ANTIFA terrorists that show up, and report any law breakers to the relevant authorities during my playthrough. why doesn't the game let me do this? do they just hate centrists? wow, way to make me sympathize with the right.
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To be fair "centrist" in the USA is "extremely rightwing" everywhere else, the USA is super consumed by rightwing retoric
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Thanks McCarthy and the red scare! You did a real long-lasting number on rhetoric here in the states.
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I wonder how he/they would feel if they could see the right NOW...
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I think you mean McCarthy's assistant, Roy Cohn.
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Bullshit
I'm a centrist
The Israeli government and Hamas leadership should both be put in front of a wall and shot
Trump is a lying narcissistic sack of shit, just like Elmo Musk
None of that should be on any political side, those are obviously human choices
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Driving 3 million people into a concentration camp and restricting food, water, and medicine is with the intention to ethnically cleanse them is bad, but have you considered that using violence to escape that concentration camp is also bad?
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They forget that centrists don't mean being in the middle of each extreme. If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn't about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
You don't win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes. It is a slow process that requires swift action.
The left's search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
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If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn't about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
This is not the situation. Both the fascist Republican and the Democratic Party, that's supposed to be the opposition to Fascism, unconditionally supported arming a state that has not only been committing genocide for over 15 months, but has committed ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and settler colonialism for over 76 years.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
This is an incredibly far left position to the Democratic Party, which denounced the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant and the ICJ case against Israel. Nor is it anticlimactic when we know genocide is already underway because of how incredibly well documented it has been.
The left's search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
Do you mean the Democratic Party here? Because what doomed them is ignoring the demands of their constituents. "The Left" in the US is entirely grassroots and had no effect on the policies of the Democratic Party during the election.
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But the right think that Trump is wonderful. At least the right in the US do, I think the right in every other country thinks he's a dork who's drawing too much attention to himself, and them by extension.
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When genocide and no genocide are both too extreme, maybe a little genocide? Or a genocide far away? Or maybe killing a group that doesn't qualify the definition of genocide?
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Or maybe killing a group that doesn't qualify the definition of genocide?
yeah let's kill a group of people that is not a group of people
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Well you see that's why the case must be made they are slightly less human.
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In a strict reading, killing LGBTQ wouldn't be genocide because they aren't all related. On the other hand, they do form a (sub) culture. You can argue both ways but they technically don't tick all the boxes. So it's as bad but not jurisprudentially genocide so maybe a compromise we can convince our centrist friend of?
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And to define that this group of people I hate is not a group of people, we asked this judge to weight on the matter.
No we didn't bribe them. Trust me bro.
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yeah this really is what centrism looks like. although I gotta say, a lot of people are so reactive towards this line of thinking that they identify anyone questioning their beliefs as "centrists". no, not wanting russia to control the world does not make me a centrist. just like criticizing the democrats does not make me a centrist.
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Honestly democrats are a little too naive and annoying to say I fully align with them but republicans are straight up dangerous in belief and practice, so while I still criticize democrats I would never claim to be a centrist
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Centrists are just lazy at this point. They’re basically “I thing treating people bad is bad, but I don’t want rules and taxes either, so I’ll settle for treating people-not-me badly if I don’t have more rules and taxes.”
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The centrists I meet have an extremely infantile view of how politics work— assuming there’s an evenly distribution of representation and power for the left and the right. The reality is that this country has always been right-leaning and is now pushing into far-right fascist territory. To be a centrist in America is essentially a European conservative.
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Laziest take.
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also, more rules and taxes. really im just into treating people-not-me bad. also maybe people like me, if, you know, I think I'm one of the good ones.
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. - W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming (1919)
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Reddit be like
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I feel like true neutral means:
Just watching the world burn because too lazy to care.
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It's important to consider all points. It's also important to analyze them and throw out the ones that are wrong, whether they're incorrect or inhumane. Blindly accepting all opinions as equally valid is stupid.
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This is just more jibledek bunk. Typical jibblist prattling on about their things and giving not a single consideration to the obivous pliquist arguments against. And all this even after the main hedging of Two Whistlers!
Ridiculous.
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OP's definition of centrism heavily influenced by CIA/media/zionism.
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Just as bad or actually worse are the "Both Sides Bad" centrists.
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conservatives are culturally inferior. we should make exceptions.
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As a rationalist I think any idea should be evaluated for at least longer than it takes to react to a meme. Ideas should be accepted or rejected on their own merits or lack thereof, and not because you notice a similarity with something clearly heroic or terrible and you want to quickly decide which way to mentally swipe so you can scroll on to the next thing in your feed. People do too much of that kind of superficial thinking. [And I'm not defending any particular political point here, I'm talking about rationality vs superficiality.]
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as a rationalist, i believe its important that we consider maybe Antactica is actually a great ice wall holding in the worlds oceans. i think we should at least evaluate that fact before making such superficial descisions.
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God I hate the current political discourse. You have extremists vs extremists, and now both sides are vilifying everyone that doesn't blindly adhere to all their positions.
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I’ve had people try to tell me that basic healthcare and corrections to income equality are “extremely progressive” viewpoints. I’m done with letting others’ definition of extremism into the conversation.
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Being called an extremist is not really the thing I'm taking issue with. The right wing has been doing that for decades, screeching "communist!" at the most ridiculous things. And depending on which particular ideals you subscribe to, being such an "extremist" is probably a good thing.
The issue I have is that instead of calling out that shitty behavior, the left has started emulating and expanding on it. In addition to calling everyone "fascist", they've started attacking the entire concept of being a centrist (and I mean actual centrist here, not just right wingers arguing in bad faith). People aren't born believing in one socioeconomic system or another, it's learned. Generally, everyone is going to start off somewhere in the center, as they become politically aware. If the only voices they ever hear is two sides screeching names at eachother, you wind up with a disengaged and disinterested voting population, which will only help the fascists.
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There is no extremist left in the american political discourse. Theres hardly even any left at all. And yes you really are the villain if you dont want women and minority groups to be equal with cishet white men or for israel to stop genociding.
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Found the enabler. ⬆️
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Found the source of the problem.
No two humans are going to agree on every point. If you vilify everyone that differs from you in the slightest, you are a detriment to your own cause.
But of course, no one actually wants to fix everything. They want to just make snarky comments online to feel superior.
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Which minor policies are you being vilified for supporting?
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