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Starting to self host

Please bear with me as I don't know where else to ask.

I want to start to self host but do not know where to start. I would like to start small. Just something that might not be beneficial but to get my feet wet. It does not even have to be practical.

I am not tech illiterate and have my fair share of technology around me hut self hosting has always been a daunting task.

I am scared to start.

I am already using a PiHole at home but that was kind of plug and play and just worked.

I would be incredibly grateful if someone could guide me to some resource or tell me what an easy first step would be.

An FAQ or self hosting for dummies.

Most resources I found assumed some previous knowledge.

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  • I'm curious where you are from and what hardware for self hosting you have. I also want to know what you are interested in self-hosting or learning.

    For me, my home lab started with networking. Yours doesn't have to. For me, I had already achieved System Administration and was working to become a network engineer. Where are you on your path? In truth, starting with the network is not the best, mine required dedicated equipment: a firewall(UDM), switching(ubiquiti), and access points. This is expensive, so perhaps not the best place to stay.

    I would say that a good place to stay is with virtualization and a hypervisor. A hypervisor is intended to run virtual machines. I think starting with a hypervisor is a good idea because once you have a hypervisor, you can experiment with just about anything you want. Windows, Linux, docker, wherever your exploration takes you.

    Now, I would say the cheapest way to do this kinda depends on you. Do you have a .edu email address? If so, you should be able to receive free licensing for Windows Server through Microsoft imagine (previously called dreamspark). If not, do you have Windows 10/11 pro edition? I would say that Windows server may require dedicated hardware, but if you are already running Windows pro, then your daily driver pc will be capable of running hyper-v.

    If you have an old spare computer, you can make it a dedicated hypervisor with either the Windows Server option, or in my opinion the preferable Proxmox. Proxmox may take a little time to get acclimated to since it is Linux command line, but you already have experience with that on the pihole.

    Those are my recommended next steps to take. Though, there is plenty more that you can do. As others have said docker is a cool way to make some of this happen. I personally hate docker on Windows(it's weird and I just want the command line not a UI). But you should easily be able to spin up Windows Subsystem for Linux, install docker and docker compose and get started there without needing any additional hardware. You could also do the same using hyper-v if you prefer and have a pro license.

    Regardless of what direction you choose to go, you can go far, you can succeed, and you can thrive. And if you run into any issues, post them here. Selfhosted has your back, and we are all rooting for you.

    Side Note: Hyper-v used to only be available on Windows Pro, but if someone knows for sure that it is available on home please let me know and I will update my post.

  • Get a old workstation and install Linux Mint. From there look into learning how Linux containers work.

  • I feel like a lot of the answers in this thread are throwing a lot of things with a lot of moving parts: Unraid, Docker, YunoHost, all that stuff. Those all still require generally knowing what the hell a Docker container is, how to use them and such.

    I wouldn't worry about any of that and start much simpler than that: just grab any old computer you want to be your home server or rent a VPS and start messing with it. Just pick something you think would be cool to run at home. Anything you run on your personal computer you wish was up 24/7? Start with that.

    Ultimately there's no right or wrong way to do things. It's all about that learning experience and building up that experience over time. You get good by trying out things, failing and learning. Don't want to learn Linux? Put Windows on it. You'll get a lot of flack for it maybe, but at the very least over time you'll probably learn why people don't use Windows for server stuff generally. Or maybe you'll like it, that happens too.

    Just pick a project and see it to completion. Although if you start with NextCloud and expose it publicly, maybe wait to be more comfortable with the security aspect before you start putting copies of your taxes and personal documents on it just in case.

    What would you like to self host to get started?

    • That takes away a lot of stress. Knowing to just get started and ignore the best approach instead of just a getting started approach and learn as you go.

      For the longest time I wanted to get rid if my google drive or google calendar and host one myself.

      Email as I have read is something more advanced but I would like to self host my email as well.

      Photos eventually too.

      As a lot of people have recommended nextcloud that seems like where my interest might be heading.

      As a starting point. Are there any hardware recommendations for a toy home server?

      • As a starting point. Are there any hardware recommendations for a toy home server?

        Whatever you already have. Old desktop, even old laptop (those come with a built-in battery backup!). Failing what, Raspberry Pis are pretty popular and cheap and low power consumption, which makes it great if you're not sure how much you want to spend.

        Otherwise, ideally enough to run everything you need based on rough napkin math. Literally the only requirement is that the stuff you intend to run fits on it. For reference, my primary server which hosts my Lemmy instance (and emails and NextCloud and IRC and Matrix and Minecraft) is an old Xeon processor close to a third gen Intel i7 with 32GB of DDR3 memory, there's 5 virtual machines on it (one of which is the Lemmy one), and it feels perfectly sufficient for my needs. I could make it work with half of that no problem. My home lab machine is my wife's old Dell OptiPlex.

        Speaking of virtual machines, you can test the waters on your regular PC by just loading whatever OS you choose in a virtual machine (libvirt if you're on Linux, VirtualBox or VMware otherwise). Then play with it. When it works makes a snapshot. Continue playing with it, break it, revert to the last good snapshot. A real home server will basically be the same but as a real machine that's on 24/7. It's also useful to test things out as a practice run before putting them on your real server machine. It's also give you a rough idea how much resources it uses, and you can always grow your VM until it fits and then know how much you need for the real thing.

        Don't worry too much about getting it right (except the backups, get those right, verify and test those regularly). You will get it wrong and eventually tear it down and rebuild it better what what you learn (or want to learn). Once you gain more experience it'll start looking more and more like a real server setup, out of your own desire and needs.

      • Email is often impossible. you can run your own server but you won't be able to send email to many people because gmail and other larre providers will ignore everything from any ip address you can get. you endeup with email for only people on you server and the what is the point.

        just a warning there. Some do self host email but it is the most difficult to host. My life is much better now that I pay fastmail to handle my email.

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