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12h ago

LibreWolf is to Firefox what BetterBird is to Thunderbird?

www.betterbird.eu Betterbird. Simply better.

Betterbird. Simply better. A soft fork of Mozilla Thunderbird

Betterbird. Simply better.

Had never heard of this before today. Anyone tried it?

EDIT: "Being a fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, the software collects some data about the user, less than the original Mozilla Thunderbird, as outlined in Thunderbird's privacy statement. No data is submitted to Betterbird, some data may be submitted to Mozilla. No telemetry and no crash reports are submitted, however, add-on updates and blocklists are downloaded from Mozilla sites. Betterbird offers a product Start Page which processes access data as described above."

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Librewolf is a privacy oriented for of Firefox, it grabs some setting from ankerfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there's currently a Firefox bug, I didn't see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways...
- fork and arkenfox

No. Betterbird adds random features.

Interesting.
Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It's not about Privacy, it's about fixing bugs.

BetterBird is great. I got it running via Birdtray under Cinnamon with some minor tinkering in the birdtray-config.json file.
- How did you get it working? I am using the latest Mint with Cinnamon, Betterbird flatpak with Birdtray flatpak. I setup the directory for my two email inboxes and it displays the joint counter on BT icon. However whenever I open BT it opens BB and gives an error and keeps BB open over anything else.
  
  birdtray-config.json
  Edit the following strings:
  
  "advanced/tbcmdline": [ "/usr/bin/flatpak-spawn", "--host", "flatpak", "run", "--branch=stable", "--arch=x86_64", "--command=betterbird", "--file-forwarding", "eu.betterbird.Betterbird", "@@u", "%u", "@@" ], "advanced/tbprocessname": "betterbird", "advanced/tbwindowmatch": "Betterbird",
  In Birdtray under Advanced - Thunderbird command line - call Betterbird as follows:
  /usr/bin/flatpak-spawn --host flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=betterbird --file-forwarding eu.betterbird.Betterbird @@u %u @@

Hopefully we can get a Betterbird mobile app one day.
- Try FairEmail. It's the closest thing I've found.
  https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/
- I was looking into k-9 mail and it seemed decent
  What stuff did you want to have in a mobile app?
  
  K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.
- Will it work with K-9/Thunderbird for Android?
  
  What do you mean "work with", it's a different-ass client? Do you mean if it's possible to import settings?
  
  The email servers themselves are separate (ex. Gmail, your school email server, work email server, etc.).
  Thunderbird / K9 are clients that let you access the email on your device
  So they should all be compatible with each other

Are there the same problems with Thunderbird as with Firefox?
- There are no "problems" with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.

I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn't supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It's probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn't even know where to start. Maybe I'll do that eventually.
- Truly the year of the Linux desktop
- Strange - I'm on Fedora Wayland using the flatpak version without any issues.
  
  You used it with keepassxc?

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