Can I "trust" DeepSeek?
Can I "trust" DeepSeek?
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deepseek is open source, so you can just use it locally.
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Quick answer: Don't give any non-locally running non-opensource LLM's sensitive info / private info.
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and lie a lot
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What does this means?
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Tbh, if you don't know what that means, you can't trust it.
Though, it means that unless it's running locally on your own hardware and not in the cloud and you haven't verified the source code directly (or someone else you trust hasn't) then assume it is nefarious and do not give it any personal or sensitive information you wouldn't want anyone on the Internet to know.
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Depends on what you ask.
Go ask it about NATO or Tienanmen Square and see what happens. The data model is heavily redacted, filtered, suppressed, biased...
So if you ask it a question, it will always be pro-China/anti-America. It also changes responses on the fly to fit with Chinese law, which includes denying the Tienanmen Square massacre, and other historic events and even goes as far as to imply or outright say they never happened at all.
So can the content be trusted? Not really.
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I personally just want to get chibese translations, but I don't if it's worth it anymore…
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Refer to my other comments above. Self-hosting it removes censorship and bias. It's only biased as long as it's on Chinese servers and therefore following Chinese law.
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DeepSeek has some of the most syntactically correct and accurate English to Chinese translations I've ever seen--so it's super useful for that.
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This is incorrect. This only applies if not hosted locally. I host it myself it has none of these restrictions. If you're using it from their app or website it's hosted in China and must follow Chinese law.
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If you’re using it from their app or website it’s hosted in China and must follow Chinese law.
This is literally what I've just said...
It also changes responses on the fly to fit with Chinese law. You called what Is aid wrong, and then immediately exactly reiterated what I've said...
Why? What do you get out of it?
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Anything that is not local AI cannot be trusted.
Have you ever thought to yourself, where the fuck do these corporations get the funding to make me use such a service for free? By harvesting your data and selling it.
From your other comment i saw you aren't using a PC, i haven't tested this out but you may be interested in it (local LLM and android only): https://github.com/Vali-98/ChatterUI
Best of luck to you.
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👀 I was looking for something like this for ages, eventually I had given up and assumed Kobold.cpp on desktop was the only choice. Thank you for the link!
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You can't trust anything.
You always have to use trustless software.
'Trusting' is privacy-by-policy.
Trustlessness is privacy-by-design.
Deepseek's models can be run truslessly locally, or can be hosted on a server.
Wait were you talking about privacy or fact-checking? LLMs don't stick to the truth.
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Here's what you can trust: https://lmstudio.ai/
Otherwise, only ask it generic coding questions that any student studying your topic would, and then there would be nothing to distrust over.
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Looks very similar to "Jan". I wonder if it's a fork (or the other way around).
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Probably not a fork as Jan is AGPL and LM Studio is mostly proprietary
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Interesting, this is my first time learning about Jan, and frankly, it looks better! I think I'll pivot...
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Seems interesting, but I don't have a computer to run it…
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Then try: https://gpt4all.io/index.html
It won't be strong, though. I'd just probably use DeepSeek but restrict questions to generic ones, like how to build a spreadsheet formula or something. Don't ask for life advice lol; do that here in !nostupidquestions@lemmy.world or !mentalhealth@lemmy.world.
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