"not a nazi btw lol"

To be fair, liberals resisting fascism does sound pretty unrealistic.

Yeah major bug tbh

Implementing fascism as a mechanic only for it to be unsustainable gameplaywise is a good bit tbh

Somewhat related, in Civ 4, depending on the ideology you choose, you get a specific related wonder to build

When you pick "fascism", the wonder is Mt. Rushmore
- Civ 6 would never
  
  the series has gone insanly lib
- Civ IV also had Mao and Stalin in it and I often wonder how they got away with all that
Making sure all of my production goes into tanks instead of tractors, and shells instead of shovels, and wondering why my people are starving
- They just need to evolve the ability to consume lead

Victoria 3 isn't good at modeling the effects of imperialism on capitalist political economy (i.e., development of a nationalist labor aristocracy & class collaborationist social democrats) as well as the conditions that give rise to fascism.

But also lol.

Whoah hold up. Check their post history, OP.

Think about this the proletariat produces labor. Labor is the driving factor of the economy nothing is produced without it. If the prolatariat wanted to cripple the capitalist system it could, if all the workers stood up and even just striked the facade would fall, the military can't run, the CIA can't run, the government can't run, the world can't with without labor becuase the world is run via labor.

and

Alright bare bones a socialist is someone who beleives that the means of production (litterally anything used to make stuff) should be controlled and owned by the workers. In out current capitalist society this means of production is reffered to as "private property." A socialist believes that only by abolishing this private property (not to confused with "personal property like toothbrush or house) and wage labor (the general concept of working a job with a boss and capitalist etc.) can the proletariat be freed from the clutches of capitol. Of course there is nuance to any awnser and between these sentences is thousands of pages of theory but the underlying prinicipals are the same. If you are getting into socialism I reccomend the Youtube channels Second Thought and Hakim.

and

Are we talking about "leftwing" (liberals) or leftwing (socialism) I can't tell

idk but I'm pretty sure they're "playing as a fascist" in that "fascism in this game is a disaster" thread, as well.

Yeah most of their posts in the last year have been in Socialism subreddits. I don't think this poster is a fascist lol
- Yeah it’s not an inherently fascist take to want a game that simulates running a country to allow a fascist play through to be viable. The people that complain about the fascist power level and real fascists are mostly the same, but not by definition.
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Gamers when the villain playthrough is the hard mode

boohoo

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- Speaking of games, it's kinda sad that zoomers and their fash motivations are on the same level as Team Flare's motivation. "Everyone sucks except for us. So we need to kill everyone for the horrible crime of not being as awesome as us."
  
  You could even argue Elongated Muskrat is a real life Lysandre. Both tech bros that want to genocide "ze undesirables". 4chan, much like team flare, also want a mass extermination of anyone who dares to not be perfect in every conceivable way. Hell, one of their litmus tests for worth is wealth, and rich people are one of the ONLY groups you can't get away with mocking on the internet (for being of their class and nothing else).
Fellow redditors, please give me the strength to be racist to Kim

imagine publicly admitting that you're less good at establishing fascism than the historical nazis

That does sound off. The problem with fascism isn't that it's hard to achieve. It's that fascism itself is a dogshit ideology for dogshit people.

For sure you can implement fascism with a huge population of liberals

"Haha, hey guise, can you help me with my fascism? I don't really LIKE fascism, haha...just for the record, ya know? But yeah if you could help me be a fascist, that'd be swell."

People all over this thread forgetting how hilarious playing as a fascist can be tequila-sunset

As long as you’re endlessly shitting on them

The original poster clearly is upset that, when playing as a fascist, the game shits upon him.

I do feel Disco Elysium is quite different, as unlike most games it doesn't glorify your choices. Most games aren't like that though, you can play a human-first fascist-lite in Mass Effect and still save the universe and receive oodles of praise, for instance.
- Oh god Mass Effect 1 renegade was like off the rails
  
  The later games weren't as bad but when doing a renegade run you really just spent most of your time in 1 hoping Shep doesn't say anything too racist

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: "Buh....gommie bad and murica gud! DiDnT yOu LeArN tHaT iN hIgH sChOoL!?!?!"

Best nazi strategist.

Why do you think someone is a Nazi in real life because they're trying to create a Nazi regime in a game? The entire point of games is to try things you wouldn't normally do…

This person is shitting their pants that fascism is not a viable ideology. Do they sound like someone who does not have a skin in the game to you?

The entire point of games is to try things you wouldn't normally do…

What kind of heinous crimes are you simulating in your video games, buddy?
- logging in to the pedophile simulator because video games are where you try things you normally wouldn't do
- What kind of heinous crimes are you simulating in your video games, buddy?
  
  To be fair I kill cops in videogames all the time but don't currently advocate for it in real life.
- Ok, but this person's complaint isn't "fascism isn't making me win instantly" it's "I can't even make the country become fascist."
- What kind of heinous crimes are you simulating in your video games, buddy?
  
  One where you kill your own mother, then go into her womb and kill her heart, for example. Have you never played a violent game? It's pretty well studied that violence in video games doesn't lead to violence in real life.
- Well, all I'm going to say is I've played rimworld...
- Way back when, I made a device in Dwarf Fortress to burn the nerves off warriors slowly enough they wouldn't die of blood loss, so they would never feel pain in combat.
- I’m sorry
it would be a very strange person to be both not a nazi and also very dedicated to making fascism work in a bibeo gaem, so it's sort of an occam's razor situation. Simplest explanation is, they're a fascist.
- Yeah, i am disgusted by fascism and would never even think to play as one. You have to be willing to carry a little water for fascists to play as one, and at that point you're going to be sitting at their table.
Because theyre whining they're not allowed to simulate it in a way that doesn't make him uncomfortable or the bad guy, did you not read the post, how is that not obvious to you?
- I understood it that they're complaining that the game is not realistic as an alternative history simulator, since in real life Hitler managed to establish a dictatorship, whereas the game makes it impossible.

yeah you want to blame mussolini for coming up with a dumbass ideology.