2d ago

Released bodycam footage shows police response to neo-Nazi demonstration in Lincoln Heights

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Rather than screaming that he should be arresting people, this footage should be used to wipe convictions off the record for other protesters who didn't get similar treatment.
All in all. This is an example of how a cop "should" behave. Protecting the rights of ANY citizen to protest. There is no way to know from the video if this was just a good cop doing the job well, or if it was a cop who favors thier cause.
Also, I love the idea of a neo-nazi with a service animal. Pretty sure that weakness would have made a person "undesirable" under hitler.

So the cops didn't arrest people for their free speech & people are upset?
- Free speech, as long as they like the free speech.
  Watch what a bunch of black people or university students start a protest
  Then again, you already know this...
  
  Black people & students can organize & exercise their rights to free speech. Do you think it is forbidden? The issue with most university protest is that campuses are private property and so if the school says they can't protest on their property, then they can be trespassed. That is very different. I'm not pretending that there aren't injustices. In fact, there have been plenty of lawsuits where someone has sued for having their civil rights violated and won. Multiple times a year you hear about how cities have had to pay out hundreds of thousands, sometimes several million, because of it.
  The solution to injustices though isn't more injustice. You think the solution to cops shooting someone who hasn't committed a crime, is to shoot more people that haven't committed a crime?
- People are upset at the contrast to other protests. Had they been protesting for minority rights, the cops would fucking find a reason to arrest them. And probably beat a few asses along the way.
  
  So they are upset that the cops arrested people in this instance for breaking the law? If people were attacking them & damaging their property because they didn't like their free speech, then that is a crime.
- Free hate speech != free speech
  
  That’s exactly what it means. Popular speech doesn’t need to be protected. The ACLU has won a number of cases defending the free speech rights of the KKK and other rightwing groups.
  Now that doesn’t mean you won’t lose your job or your community won’t beat your ass.
  
  What crime did they commit? You are way outside your element here, but try your best to come up with something citing some prominent case law in the US to support your claims.
- Always found the free speech defense weak. Why isn't calling for the torture and killing of lesser races at least as bad as shouting "fire" in a theater?
  
  I mean they can be arrested if they explicitly call for that. If you want to expand the range of speech considered hate speech so it includes Nazi demonstrations then, well... Would you trust Trump with that kind of power?
  
  Free speech has been litigated many times in the US. What is the most recent prominent court decision you'd like to discuss on the subject? Also, I didn't hear any of them calling for torturing & killing people in the video. Did you?
- Without the context and from across the street, it would look as if the protestor was one of the cops and they picked him up after a sucessful mission.
  The initial phone footage from the bridge made people speculate cops were on their side.

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