At NATO meeting, Europe demands part in Ukraine peace talks
At a NATO meeting on Thursday, ministers said Europe must play a part in peace talks for Ukraine. Prior, the US and Russia had a long conversation about Ukraine’s future — without any input from European partners.
I know some people won't like to hear this, but Europe should leave NATO right now, form a common army now and accept that the US is no longer a reliable ally now.
I know this will make some people dizzy, but the sum of our current defense spending puts us at the same level as China, far above Russia, we just have to coordinate it.
That require a proper military though 😁
They don't need to leave NATO.
Just kick America out.
Well, whatever is easier, but I can't be clear that Turkey is a good friend right now
We should offer the Ukraine a support package now, with Money and Military goods. So they can tell Russia and Trump to fuck off. And we need to counter the hybrid warfare from Russia with the same bullshit there
But Europe is to lethargic I fear
No, Europe isn't lethargic or not doing anything. Europe is simply losing the information war for years now with the population not even realising it.
And so Europeans will loudly cry about nothing being done (while actually surpassing the US in military support - in humanitarian, financial etc support there isn't even a competittion as it's basically all Europe), will be scared of mighty Russia (while actually having more troops and more equipment than Russia -or the US for that matter-, actually modern/well-trained, too) and will happily vote off goverments that actively support Ukraine (usually to replace them with either corrupt lying loudmouths pretending that they will do more -they won't!- or equally lying propagandists having fully embraced the Russian narrative and telling scared idiots that they need to back down and let Russia do whatever they want).
There's news articles every other day that are basically "Country X sends Y pieces of equipment Z to Ukraine". They've basically become background noise from how often those get published. I definitely don't feel like we're not doing anything.
I DO feel like we should be doing even more, but that's a different matter.
Well you're right, right now Europe is ahead by 1/3 according to the Kiel Institute Tracker. But I guess we should as this war is happening very close to our own turf. But the point stands, it was not enough and it took to long. Ukraine is loosing right now
and will happily vote off goverments that actively support Ukraine
I vote Green, so no, I don't vote for lying corrupt loudmouths. I can't change the rest of my population though, who vote for stupid russian puppets or for the austerity morons
