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bike lane? did you mean painted gutter?
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I get cyclists using the road. Here where i live there is no infrastructure for bycles. I have been there and it's hideous to cooperate with cars on the road. the only problem i have with cyclists are the ones that think thar bikes don't have to abide to circulation laws. For example, in a country that drives on the right. I had a cyclist behind me, i turn on the indicator to turn right and as i turn the cyclist overtakes me from the right and then acts pissed because i almost put them under. Let's not speak about the ones that take one way roads from the wrong sides to take a shortcut.
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The only place on my commute where I interact with left turning vehicles (we keep left, so it's the same as your right turning ones) we have a bike lane which strongly implies bikes going straight ahead have right of way
When it's a car turning, I make sure I'm not going to be in the intersection until they are already turning
When it's a public bus, they wait for me before moving. I think our bus drivers get some instruction on how to act around bikes
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It's nothing to do with individual choice and everything to do with design.
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in finland we have bike lanes everywhere, still these spandex people be cycling on the roads.
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That just means the bike lanes aren't good enough. No cyclist rides on the road to annoy drivers. No cyclist enjoys sharing the road with cars. They use the road cause the bike lanes are full of obstacles, dangers, pot holes, choke points, additional forced stops and detours you'll never see from inside a car.
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In Germany, we have the wonderful Radwegebenutzungspflicht (obligation to use cycle paths). Unfortunately most drivers don't realize this only applies to about 10% of Germany's cycle paths, which are marked by a blue sign. They think the obligation applies to all cycle paths, and so they keep giving cyclists shit.
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In germany, you have traffic lights that give cars green before bicycles finish passing the road.
And also, there's no darn orange to warn cyclists to stop. You come in at speed and the light just instantly go from green to red.
And on top of that, some bicycle paths just end in a highway with no indication or warning.
German cycling infrastructure is bad
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Absolutely agree. Bike infrastructure in Germany, especially in German cities is dismal. I've been to Talinn, Estonia and saw how things could and should be done, and in comparison, Germany sucks. Well, and if you're using a bike for your daily commute, you'll also be familiar with the mindset of car drivers. You'll be overtaken far too close and yelled at every day.
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What bike lane?
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On an American road it makes sense. You want to claim more space for your own safety. Which should be fine, in most places in the us bicycles are legally no different from a truck when it comes to traffic rules.
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Exactly. I'm a cyclist, and the bike lane is often unsafe because there are parked cars right next to it and it's nigh impossible to tell if someone is going to open a door right in front of you. I don't want to be in the main traffic lane, but I'll do it if it's safer for me, and plugging up a lane is much better than swerving into traffic to avoid colliding with a door.
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And yet the traffic rules don't stop cyclists from riding the wrong way down my one-way street a dozen times a day. I've nearly hit them with my car door or walked in front of them with my dog because I'm checking the other direction, where cars would be coming from. No cop is going to pull over a bicycle so they just ignore the rules.
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More expensive the bike, less chance it's driven in a bike lane and higher the seat.
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You want to see them get really mad? Suggest that if they want to share the road they should also pay registration.
(Not something I believe, we just had an avid cyclist at work who was enormous fun to shit stir.
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