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  • This site provides absolutely no evidence of any of its claims and even includes the following little gem in the FAQ section on that page:

    Is PayPal Safe?

    Yes, all Paypal transactions are encrypted. Plus, it has two-factor authentication and fraud protection.

    Safe for its customers, or safe for PayPal?

    • The site was a quick roundup of info to link to. Post isn't an endorsement of the site and doesn't try to be, it's an endorsement of the broader idea. I didn't say to eat a bowl of horseshit and smile about it, I said PayPal owns Venmo and the implication is that a lot of decent people will stop using Paypal in protest and say, "I'll just use Venmo instead".

      So helping some of the younger folks realize that separation doesn't exist in many large brands - a thing that a lot of us do know and consider, but don't be so arrogant as to assume people aren't learning these things every day.

  • See, this isn't viable.

    This is the "ban plastic straws" of late stage capitalism. Overrepresenting individual action to distract from the need of structural reform.

    Stop voting with your wallet, it's pointless. Consumption is not expressing support. Vote with your votes, if you're in a place where you have a chance to do so, find other ways to organize collective action if you don't.

    • Naw sorry, I tried that this last election and got embarrassed. Went hardcore Democrat, Coconut-pilled, blah blah blah.

      I genuinely tried to believe in it, voted early, got friends and family to show up and vote too. Not only did the dems lose, they lost worse than they have in decades.

      And to make matters worse, the Democratic party largely has completely missed why they lost so badly to the most pathetic excuse for a president in American history.

      It's too late for large scale positive structural change with the current political parties in the USA. The Dems must be torn apart and re-shaped into a populist left-wing party to have any chance of meaningful change. Until that happens, voting with your dollar is the only kind of vote that will be taken seriously.

      Extremely local elections, sure, vote for a leftist candidate that might actually win some small office. But unless it's that, vote with your dollar and engage in direct action to serve your community and build genuine solidarity.

    • The two are not mutually exclusive...

      People can take direct action

      People can organized and act as a group in solidarity.

      Stop voting with your wallet, it's pointless.

      Yes... consume like a brain dead idiot, esp follow shiti marketing campaigns online, deff make sure you buy that trash 🤡

      And remember... "voting" is how we got here in the first place.

      Americans don't understand what going into proper opposition means. hint, it aint voting for the "other" guy

    • If you're in a country with a two party system then voting has even less impact that than giving your money to a more worthwhile company.

      Consumption is not expressing support.

      You may not support them with your words but giving them money is literally support. Like giving a horse an apple and then saying you're not feeding it.

      • No, it's like giving the horse a sugar cube where you own exactly one of the grains of sugar, taking your grain of sugar away and pretending you've made a difference.

        Or, you know, banning plastic straws.

        You're absolutely wrong about two party systems in any case, even those have tons of elected roles in different layers of governance where changes matter. And that's also where the collective action comes in. Your feel-good token choices of companies and services to avoid haven't done anything in the past thirty years and aren't going to start now.

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