THAT'S DIFFERENT!

The fact he's too stupid to Google "do I have to use a Microsoft account to login to Windows 11" is astounding. People believe this guy engineers rockets, laughable.
- The number of times people have told me, "well SpaceX engineers have been quoted as saying he's very competent!" Yeah, how big was their bonus after that?
  
  Companies that function have Musk handlers. Twitter and now seemingly Tesla have failed to keep him at bay and you can see the end results.
  In two years time there will be retrospective articles about how could the country have let him fuck the government up so bad, how did no one see this coming, why did no one stop him... Etc

broken clock or something
- Is it really a broken clock situation if you’re guilty of the very thing you’re complaining about?
  
  Yeah, this is just pot calling the kettle black, or seeing the splinter in his neighbor's eye but not the beam in his own (or whatever it is in English).
  
  my mistake

This guy is the definition of stupidity, Microsoft has many things to be hated on but this is not one of them. He is complaining just like the average Windows user
- this is one of them.
  
  Yeah this is absolutely one of them. Elon Musk is right in this case, although he's still an idiot

Yes it's just you. There is still a local account option in windows 11.
There are enough other things to hate Microsoft for but this is not one of them.
- I don't think there is anything for Elon to hate Microsoft for considering he does all the same things.
  The super genius apparently doesn't hate them enough to bother using a free alternative that doesn't have these issues.

Unelected immigrant with illegal unfettered access to all data in the entire federal government complains about having to have a microsoft account to use Windows.

Don't you need to create an X account just to look at posts on X?
- Use xcancel.com to see tweets without an account.
  
  Your comment shows up twice. Which Lemmy client are you using?
- Don't you need to give all your information to AI if you have ever interacted with the government in the past?
- Use xcancel.com to see tweets without an account.

No I am not seeing it I use Linux
- See? That's why you're not a genius like Elon Musk! He knows that Linux is too hard!

For the world’s smartest guy, he sure is stupid
- Anyone who thinks he's the smartest guy at anything has been organically lobotomized by a brain worm
  
  Wait we don’t live in a meritocracy after all?

Wait the richest asshole in the world uses regular windows like poor commoners?
Because he has access to many sensitive data, shouldn't be using windows enterprise with a finely tuned group policy by some AD guru??

LOL yeah dude you just
In the setup page before you select language Open cmd with Shift + F10 and type OOBE\BYPASSNRO
Then set up the computer without internet
- Or just use Rufus to make the ISO and check the box to bypass creating an account. I'm dual booting Windows 11 right now without one.

It's simple z we buy Microsoft
And then proceed to run it off a cliff
Oh please, musk, buy Microsoft, please please
- Ah, yes. Now you need a twitter/x account to login instead of a Microsoft account AND all possibilities to create a local account are removed. Be careful what you wish for.
- My god that would be funny

We know how this ends
Elon complains
Elon buys
Elon destroys
- If Elon destroyed MS, that would be a net positive.
- Microsoft has a market cap of over 3 trillion.
  Musk is crazy stupid rich times a million, but he's an order of magnitude shy of being able to bully Microsoft with his wallet. With the resources of the US government, sure. but not his checkbook.

Nope, the Steam Deck has been my daily driver, I love it.

He's so fucking stupid.

he's gonna buy Microsoft and rename it MicroXoft for fucks sake.
- Read it as micrococks

Somebody's mad Bill said he was craaaaaaazy

Click domain join instead and then create a local account
- That option only shows up when you set up Pro edition unfortunately.
  
  Shift F10 opens a command window, OOBE\bypassnro
  Or run ipconfig /release
  This will disconnect your internet connection for a moment and allow you to create a local account.
  
  I feel like someone as rich as Musk probably boight Windows Pro.

The console bypass trick still works.
- Thank god. I had to jump through so many hoops just to get a windows VM without a password.

So the "tech genius" doesn't know how to install windows without a Microsoft account and doesn't know how to Google it?
May I introduce the man who wants you to think he is a genius!
Thanks Elon for being so transparently incompetent.
- And yet my parents still believe that he must have had some competence to be in the place he is at now. Illusion of meritocracy blinds so much.
  
  That is the insane part. Honestly I thought so. I literally read an bias as fuck biography of that guy, believing that I would find some competency. Even they failed to spin the yarn in that way. The most positive spin was effectively "musk is a good promiser/beggar".
  Context, it was in the early Tesla days, in which people hope he would kickstart a change.
- Is it possible to do that on latest windows 11 home installation? I thought they disabled local accounts completely.
  
  I struggled through it with two new laptops last month. The command prompt method didn’t work anymore. I was however able to bypass after disconnecting the Internet a few times during the setup process to make it fail at trying to create an online account. It’s like it will finally give up after two or three times and allowed me to setup a local account finally.
  
  It sure looked like an option last time I tried, but it was more hassle and I was just trying to create a guest account for a friend, so I didn't bother.
  Also Microsoft backed off on the intrusive AI stuff about 5 minutes after announcing it because there was such an uproar. The funny part is I was working for Microsoft at the time, and you could tell the leadership really thought consumers were gonna love it.
  
  You have to sort of dig specifically for the newer fixes, the old ones dont work usually.
  
  Last time I tried, disconnecting the PC from the internet worked.

Remember when it was possible to browse Twitter unrestricted without having to sign up with an account? Those were good times.
- My exact first thought. If he's going to abuse his power and force govt services to provide twitter updates it should be accessible to all without restriction.
  The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) on Saturday said it will stop e-mailing news organizations and reporters with updates about two plane crashes that occurred earlier this week.
  Moving forward, the federal agency tasked with investigating transportation-related accidents and disasters said news organizations and reporters will have to follow the agency’s official account on X
  https://thedesk.net/2025/02/ntsb-moves-plane-crash-press-updates-x-twitter/

Here's the link for anyone who's looking for it: https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1761835728000954654
- Nitter.net is alive!?
  
  Yes, it recently came back to live
  There are a few new instances: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances#public
  Nitter (the software) recently had an update, as long as you just provide a valid Twitter account, you can easily run an instance. The previous versions of Nitter used an unauthenticated GraphQL API, but it was shut down at some point. I still don't know how xcancel.com and nitter.poast.org managed to survive though.

I've had 2 instances where the Shift+F10 method didn't work on a Windows 11 Home edition install. 1 was a brand new HP laptop I set up for a friend. It came with a bunch of bloatware so I created a bootable USB and reinstalled the OS. It didn't pull up a command prompt when I tried the command no matter what I did. The second was at work. I accidentally let it update during the setup and afterwards it accepted the bypass command, but still never gave me the option to log in without a Microsoft account. I have a feeling they're phasing that option out for Home.
At least Pro has the domain join option. Still it sucks that Bitlocker gets set up automatically and associates the key with the first Microsoft account you sign in with.
- S mode!
  If you buy one in s mode, then you can't run 3rd party programs or particular built-in ones. That includes command prompt, which is why shift-f10 didn't work. It's ok as you can get out of it by, going to the ms store after logging in as an admin!
  We now see the problem with s mode in the out of box experience.
  
  You're right, it was in S mode. I had to create a junk email address to unlock it. The original account was an admin but it wouldn't remove S mode without an MS account.

the world's richest man, de facto president, head of the tech oligarchy, is complaining about corporations irritating him.
- If only there was a sort of consumer protection bureau of some sort. To regulate these types of things....

WHO THE FUCK SAYS "PC LAPTOP"??
Did he type that from his laptop phone? Maybe speech-to-text from his cell phone smartwatch?
- He needs to dumb it down for his followers
  
  Yeah, those xAI bots aren't yet at the same level as ChatGPT
- People who know about Mac laptops.
  
  In that case it would be a Windows laptop. PC stands for Personal Computer. It has nothing to do with the OS.
  
  Ah yes, I love the Microsoft Personal Computer 11
- I might be dumb. PC vs Mac is a common way to differentiate. Laptop vs stationary is a common way to differentiate. Isn't "PC Laptop" a pretty descriptive and non-overlapping way to unambinguiusly distinguish the item?
  
  It's mostly a marketing gimmick, same as people who say "tablet or iPad".
  In this case in particular is complaining about windows, it would be a stretch to think it's an apple computer.

For anyone reading this that has to install Windows, when you get to the point where it asks you to log into a Microsoft account, hit shift+F10, type oobe\bypassnro into the command prompt and after it reboots select "I don't have an account"...
I would still maintain that Linux is a better option though.
- Yeah but with Linux you have to open up a terminal and input cryptic commands someone on the internet gave you in order to stop the distro from spying on you... /s
  
  in order to stop the distro from spying on you...
  This is where you lost me. Literally no one thinks this. Even the most anti-Linux folks on the planet don't pretend Linux spies on you more than Microsoft...
- Wasn't that method patched out of the installer?
  
  Nope, it still there
  
  No. Still needed in smaller business environments if you're onboarding a new machine.
- I don't think it's that simple anymore, I had to disconnect from the internet and other shenanigans

Political relevance be damned, anyway...
You can press SHIFT+F10 keys to open Command Prompt.
Execute OOBE\BYPASSNRO command then.
After this, setup will reboot the computer and after reboot, you’ll get a new option I don’t have Internet or Continue with limited setup to skip the Internet requirement.
- I did this when installing Windows 11 for a friend, was also my first experience installing Windows 11 as well. Having to open a command line during the installation process really nullifies the "Windows easy" and "linux hard" stereotype.
  
  Thats the thing, you dont HAVE to install without a MS account. That is your choice.
  Most people don't care and create an MS account anyway. And they don't have to use any command line.
  Also a single command line still does not compare to Linux.
  Nothing is nullified
- This helps me remember:
  OOBE - Out-Of-Box Experience
  NRO - Network Restriction Offline
- Also, make sure the network isn't plugged in. If Windows detects a connection you have to start all over.
- You don't even have to do all that. Just do the install offline.
  
  Oh Sweet Win10 Child
  _(Should _we _tell _them? _I _mean... _about _the _horrors _of _Win11?)
  
  Not true. Without the workaround, they make it impossible to move forward with installation without a network connection.

Is there no longer an option to use a local account if the internet isn't available?
- I followed a guide on YouTube to install windows 11 without an account. It also helped me disable a lot of crap.
  Despite what people tell you in here Linux isn’t an amazing alternative if you don’t want to spend time setting it up to be a replacement.
  I’m a software engineer and when I leave work I don’t want to be solving more problems.
  
  I am the furthest thing from a techie but I have been using Linux for several years. Never in a million years could I return to windows.
  Linux doesn't break often in my experience
- I may be wrong on this, but I believe they don't give you that option, and just ask to be connected to the internet before continuing setup. You can, however, do some shenanigans to open up command prompt, and after a little bit of typing in commands from the internet and restarting your machine, you can then skip the account login and just make a local account.

Yes you do have to live in capitalist hellscape too, asshat. Maybe you should have thought about that a little sooner. >:(
- One of the biggest capitalist complaining about capitalism

Ctrl+F10 and oobe\bypassnro
- As long as it's not in S mode. Can't run cmd in S mode.
  
  Windows S sucks anyway, why would anyone use this?
- This is the way

This supposed genius still uses Windows?
- linux isnt popular enough for him to claim to be an expert on it
  
  Also the Linux people would've destroyed him
- Probably is just abusing his power and platform to move public opinion in the direction he wants. Looking at the rest of this thread, most of us took the bait.

Okay, this was a year ago. Still, why is anyone at that level setting up there own computer? I would pay someone to do it.
- Better question is why is super genius Elon using Windows 11?
- He's not. His assistants tech team's intern mentioned it through their communication app Elon can shadow read.
- Another reason to not be a billionaire. People will be trying to hack you for your whole life and you can't just set up your own computer.

I switched to Linux Mint a few weeks ago and it was eye-opening

So now he's busy dismantling what little consumer protections are left in the US. Makes so much sense.

Yet his Swasticars strip every ounce of data from it owners…

If only someone would reply to him with the screen Twitter displays when you try to read a post while not signed in…

Broken clock.

Lots of people in this thread calling him out for not doing the bypass, and I really don't want to be defending him, but he did try too. The issue was that the computer automatically connected to a nearby open wifi network so was not presenting the no network option. I'm completely sure that no bad actors are going to take advantage of this fact to infect new machines.
- Too bad going into the BIOS and turning off the WiFi was too difficult for a super genius computer wizard like Musk.
  
  I mean, it apparently just needed to be de-selected, but my comment was more about how bloody concerning it is that Win11 devices just connect to whatever nearby open wifi network they can find to phone home.

Is this real? I'm having a hard time believing he posted this.
- I couldn't believe it either at first, so I started looking for the actual post...
  There you go buddy: https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1761835728000954654
- It is.
- "Real" is debatable, like anything about that asshole, but posted indeed.
  
  These days I'm wondering if reality is real, so...

Bill Gates openly likes vaccines so Microsoft is the tech bros you're allowed to hate in that world. Not a compliment to them or anything, I'm a Linux guy myself but that's the right wing motivation for the Windows hate.

Turn on airplane mode

He deserves it

Elons... Right... 🤮
- I'm surprised he isn't exclusively Linux.

Folks, this was a year ago.

Fuck, even more garbage into out AI garbage dump.

I guess when you're a head of state you gotta be careful about what goes on your devices.

I am pretty sure he uses Linux because he said something once that seemed linuxy. I forget what. Does he seriously use Windows or is this more "edgy humor"?
With Linux so easy to use, it's hard to understand why someone would use Windows unless they had a really low intelligence and struggled to learn anything new (like they had a brain disease, developmental issues, etc.) or if they were using it it in an enterprise or virtual setting.
It must be a joke.
- With Linux so easy to use, it's hard to understand why someone would use Windows unless they had a really low intelligence and struggled to learn anything new (like they had a brain disease, developmental issues, etc.) or if they were using it it in an enterprise or virtual setting.
  Username doesn't check out.
- Leon might have tried Linux once. But he was famously fired from PayPal for trying to switch the codebase from Linux (which he didn't understand) to Windows. And Windows ME or some shit. Not even the somewhat stable version that was also out at the time.