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  • This is just plain wrong, in my view. You don't learn Communism; you learn to hate life itself, instead of the terrible system in which your shitty life happens.

    The impoverished Brazilian gig worker delivering food to rich people while riding a motorcycle with Bolsonaro stickers begs to differ. I see this guy all the time. He struggles to feed his family (because communists are making groceries more expensive), he wants more police brutality (against other people), he wants followers of certain religions (not his) arrested, he says he works 18 hour days and life is tough but he works hard (and you're a lazy crybaby if you don't want to do it too).

    Sure, Marx explains why his life is miserable, but there's plenty of other people willing to offer misleading but more immediately compelling explanations and these are all very appealing to somebody who was born and raised immersed in anticommunist propaganda.

    • i think the part that i hate the most about this is that when they can finally afford something, its a big achievement ("conquista!") only working to the bone could have brought.

      even being able to buy their basic motorcycles instead of renting is rationalized as them winning in life.

      i know many many people like this. it confuses and upsets me to no end.

      • i think the part that i hate the most about this is that when they can finally afford something, its a big achievement ("conquista!") only working to the bone can bring.

        The truly Brazilian vibes of "Foi Deus que me deu" (God gave this to me) sticker slapped onto the rear window of a shitty banged up car

  • This is just romanticizing suffering for purpose of anti-intellectualism. Nobody is capable of contextualizing all they go through let alone formulate that into a coherent worldview without prior cumulative analysis and knowledge. Even those who believe they do like this romanticization do so because they had some prior familiarity with the ideas, probably through second-hand knowledge, to relate it to theory or communism.

  • I dont like the word theory. I feel like it turns people off to it. I think a better word is strategy. We might all agree on the whole capitalism must go thing, but ask most people wtf are we gonna do about it and theyll shrug. Lenin literally wrote a book called What is to be done. Theory is more about being able to recognize the cracks in capitalism and learn how to exploit those cracks. When its put into practice anyway. A lot of people are honestly just politics nerds who study it without ever putting it into practice. Which is... Fine i guess. But dont think you have to be like that to read it. Its not a college class. Just think of it as Lenin, the guy who founded the USSR, talking to you directly and being like "so this is what im thinking". Its very valuable insight. Not all of it still applies in 2025 obviously, but most does.

    Like your meme says Marx explains why it happens. Lenin tells you what to do about it.

  • I'd say it's both. It's not impossible to have a perfect grasp of theory without proletarianization and suffering, and it's not impossible to have a clear grasp of what needs to be done and why without theory. However, for the vast majority, you must have theory and practice. Theory is a tool that makes practice easier and more effective, it identifies the sources of problems and tells you how to think about solving them. To avoid theory is a mistake, that's fighting a terrible and great enemy while handcuffed or blindfolded. Not impossible, but unnecessarily difficult.

    If you don't learn the lessons our predecessors gave us and spent their lives figuring out and testing, do you really care?

    • To quote Vijay Prashad paraphrasing Marx: Those who seek to change the world understand it better.

      Every cadre should be a theorist, and every theorist should be a cadre; this separation between the proles who actually go and experience reality and the "theorists" who describe it while being alienated from it is bound to go nowhere. You need to have the workers educated in political theory, and you need to have the theorists close to the ground where they can experience history unfolding.

    • The screenshot isn't even talking about theory vs practice. The real life non-theory "practice" they recommend is simply being on the receiving end of booj state violence, starvation, being overworked, etc. This is not the same as organizing a strike, organizing a party, going to protests, and other stuff that actually is practice. That suffering may help one embed themself into a community or workplace they want to organize and motivate them to destroy capitalism, but it hasn't prevented many oppressed people becoming anticommunists regardless (see the other thread on this post about poor Brazilian gig workers still ending up as Bolsanaro supporting chuds).

      • I agree, I was just trying to address a more charitable reading of it that is less detached from reality IMO. It would probably have been better to acknowledge that in my comment though.

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