3d ago

Trans inclusive hater

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Hey, non bigoted hate for once. Progress is progress.

Tbh I gotta respect this, I fully get it some folks just don't vibe with certain performances by actors or certain actors in general even if that actor didn't do anything wrong or did multiple earth shatteringly good performances.

It's weird, but .. I find that almost .. wholesome?
- It's hate with respect! The best king of hate!

I still watched the umbrella academy.
The whole time I'm going "where's the sex scene!"

I kind of get it. Their awkwardness may or may not be some sort of comedic relief in Umbrella Academy. Hard Candy was an okay movie I guess.
- I think Eliott Page is a he
  
  I used zero gendered terms in my comment.
  
  Using they conveys a detached tone which matches the detached and ambivalent nature of the comment. See similarly "I don't care what they think" or "I don't know why they act that way" which would normally be used in informal conversation to signify a lack of engagement with the subject.
  
  Elliott uses he/they pronouns!
  
  Quoting November Kelly, "She, but they if you are mad at me"

I'm a huge fan of Inception but I have to admit that Elliot is fairly flat in that movie. Page's earlier work seems to have more dynamic characters, like Hard Candy, Trailer Park Boys, and Juno. Page has always been my celebrity crush though so I'm pretty biased.
- Wow, I forgot he was in trailer park boys. What a beautiful show.
- When artists become successful they often seem to lose the spark that got them there. Not sure what to do with that, tho.
  
  There's a studied effect on pro athletes where getting paid to play makes them lose their love of the game, and I think it's something like that. Anecdotally I used to love acting but I didn't even last a year in the theatre industry before I burned out and haven't acted in a single thing since.
- I love both Page and Inception, but I agree, his most memorable moment was his kiss with JGL. I remember seeing it in theaters and thinking, "Why does this feel queer?"
  When he came out, it finally clicked. Crush confirmed.

Don’t boo him he’s right.
Same with Nolan honestly, overrated as fuck. Go back and watch the Nolan Batman and you’ll see some of the absolute worst action scenes and fight choreography in cinema. He also seems to take pride in being a pretentious fuck who interjects all his movies with fart art bullshit, instead of just focusing on making the movie watchable
- Oh, you don't have a 17.5ch cinema surround sound set at home? Too bad, guess subtitles it is.
  
  Even cinemas struggled to make that audio mix nightmare distinguishable. You need subtitles every other scene with your 17.5 surround
- interjects all his movies with fart art bullshit
  Honestly I don't see this one, but maybe it's because I'm used to way worse
  
  Try watching Tenet at home without subtitles.
- The fact that Nolan puts in the effort to try to elevate his films above being popcorn slop is often what makes them stand out even if they sometimes fall short in other ways. If every director just painted by numbers then every movie would be a Marvel movie.
  
  Nolan is like a try hard who can quite reach the level of artist he strives for even with a half a billion dollar budget. Even with all his resources he’ll never come close to being a Sergio Leone or a Scorcese
- There's probably no movie that changed my life as much as Interstellar. It's literally one reason why I'm starting my master's thesis in physics now. So Nolan movies will always be something special for me.
  
  Interstellar is really great. I just watched it on IMAX and I wish I had earlier.
  
  Are you writing it on how love transcends physics.
- The fact that Nolan isn’t getting the hint that people fucking HATE his sound mixing choices is insane to me.
  
  I think it was Tenet that I watched for like 20 minutes and turned it off it was so frustrating, i couldn’t hear anything but murmuring
- Agree but Interstellar and Oppy are still goated though.
  
  The Prestige is better
- I don't watch a lot of film, is it that these guys use the Nicholas Cage "let the editor do all the acting" technique?
  
  He's actually just wrong. Nolan has a lot of action scenes in a lot of his movies, and while some of them do suck most of them are actually pretty great.
- Glad I'm not the only one with this opinion. Nolan films suck. Batman Begins was okay, though. But the second one was boring and I couldn't even finish the 3rd. Within seconds of hearing that ridiculous voice Bane was doing, I had to turn it off cause I couldn't stop laughing at how bad it sounded.
  Interstellar was alright as well. But the second act felt rushed. Not a terrible film, just overrated as you said.

"I see you for who you are, you are valid, and you still suck" is a "delightful" take.
- My sister taught me a lot about trans people when she transitioned and was just as awful as she was before. I held out the hope that it would somehow "fix" her from being a loud jerk, but that's not how transitioning works.
  That being said every other trans person I've ever met has been perfectly lovely so I know it's not bigotry.
  
  Trans people, like all other people, can be assholes. Assholery transcends everything. But so does goodness.
- My ex and I split up many years before I came out. This was pretty much my exs position on me when I came out.

I really thought I was about to read something very transphobic, but nope, someone just has strong opinions on acting.

The true hater. He hates your soul.

I hate you (respectfully)

He hates me for meee

I like his work, to each their own I suppose

He played a really convincing teen girl that one time.
- Hard Candy is such an underrated film
  
  Is it actually underrated ?
- I liked him in Beyond two Souls

I still can get over the logic behind choosing "Elliot" over "Allen" as a male name after transitioning. "Allen" is a perfectly masculine name and phonetically much closer to "Ellen". People basically wouldn't even have to rejust talking to you.
"It's his choice what he wants to be called, so why do you care?" Because you yourself are probably the person who who says your own name the least. It's something everybody else has to deal with.
- When you get the chance to choose your name, you choose the one that makes you happy. It's for you, not others. Your existence shouldn't have to be convenient. Seek your joy, as long as it isn't harming others.
  
  What do you mean "when"? Everybody can choose their name at any time, it cost like 300 bucks plus the fees for new passports and the drivers license. Then it's just a matter of calling all the official faculties to inform them of the change.
  Its not some gracefully spiritual thing.
  Plus actors and actresses can choose an additional stage name when registering with the SAG.
- You have to "deal" with referring to a celebrity by a name you don't prefer? Somehow this is an inconvenience for you?
  
  Its just a unique circumstance where a male and female name are almost phoneticaly almost identical and not taking advantage of that is kind if an oversight to your own fortune.
  It's like missing a curb by an inch and then getting out if the car to scratch your rims by hand anyway.
- Maybe just maybe Allen is far too close to Ellen that it would cause dysphoria? Or maybe the ell part of the name has some significance to him and his family. It's not rocket science it's just someones name.

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