SovietBeerTruckOperator [none/use name] @hexbear.net

11h ago

I kinda miss when Libs would stumble in here and try and "own" us.

Feel like that hasn't happened in a while.

I miss them

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well, there is still all of you

this unironically converted some folks.
but then we have to defederate the tankies....

Umm actually sweaty have you considered that communism has killed 100 million people?? chekmate
- I love it when they say stuff like that and then when they're challenged on it they can't cite anything. It's just stuff everybody knows.
  Then you eventually get a single link to either Wikipedia or the first article their frantic googling gave them
  
  it is just known but then go it wasn't capitalisms fault for all of the deaths it's caused
- 100 million? Must be a slow day

Tankie rhymes with Yankee drops mic

this has become an ecco chamber:

my favorite thing about us interacting with liberals here is how they can't handle us talking normally. Just our normal communication style, casual chatting, is interpreted by them as wildly offensive and rude. And that's no matter what we're saying or how good faith we're communicating. It felt like even when I was trying to talk normally to libs here or federated I'd have to water down everything I said, or I'd get asked to denounce Stalin or the DPRK no matter what the topic was.
Or maybe that's just their defense mechanism? Like a squid spraying ink. When they don't have anything concrete to say they instantly complain about manners?
- Or maybe that's just their defense mechanism? Like a squid spraying ink. When they don't have anything concrete to say they instantly complain about manners?
  Yeah that's it. I've worn down enough of them to see the pattern play out time and again. After that comes aggression and insults and if then you get "lol you triggered?"
  My favourite thing to do is to ask them a simple question and then point out how they never answer it.
  My second favourite thing to do is to explain why Wikipedia isn't a good source.
  My third most favourite thing to do is take a shit so big it tears my asshole in two. Gotta eat less fiber I guess.
  
  Since they love the word ad hominem, someone should point out to them that tone policing is one of them.
- Redditors all talk exactly the same like they're in a weird robot cult, so when they see internet people conversing in a normal, reasonably casual style and having a good time doing so it short circuits their brains
- I'm new here and I couldn't even tell there were problems with how you guys communicate.
  
  I see it differently, I can feel a deep fire burning in almost all of Hexbear's comments, quite different from most communities that just whine without purpose.
  One day I'll find out what this fire is aiming at. /s
  
  it’s mostly just lack of capitalization, punctuation, use of emojis, etc that triggers them
  
  Hexbear gets reaaaally hostile when it's obvious that a person is acting in bad faith and not at all worth talking to. The crowd does not waste its time trying to engage bad faith actors and instead just switches over to hostility, pigpoopballs or fart noises.
  If someone seems in good faith or willing to actually learn then it's pretty reasonable.
  
  Usually the bad experiences people bring up are ones they instigate.
  9/10 boils down to someone trying to be a debate pervert like ben Shapiro or trying to troll everyone.
  Like no shit it's a bad experience when you come in hostile from the start.
- I believe it's really all they know. it's how they've been trained by MSM to think and speak. It's how they argue with conservatives, who have been similarly trained. When they are confronted with a different pattern they discover they have no other method in their arsenal and are compelled to switch to ego-defense.

Question for tankies: when you're picking out your ideology, why don't you simply choose the lib-left part of the political compass instead of auth-left?
- I like the colour red more than green
- Only tankies get Xi bucks. I'm saving mine up for a life-size replica of Stalin's holodomer spoon.
  
  I'm saving mine for a Stalin android that's Deepseek trained on all his works and historical acts and puts me over his knee and spanks me when I step into revisionism.
- I tried but some of the questions on the survey were very trickily worded.
- haven't you tankies learned that the auth-left is a trick? It's a bunch of fascists tricking you into thinking it's communism, but then they make a government that just does state capitalism, which is worse than normal capitalism. You're being fooled into believing you're far left, but actually, you're just the moderate wing of fascism.
  Why can't you be more like social democrats, like Sweden or Denmark? Those ideologies aren't tricks by the capitalist elites to make you think you're further left than you actually are. Social democrats are the true far left, not fascists like you tankies. The social democrats are legitimate and that's why no social democratic country operates on imperialism.
- Define what "auth" means exactly? Does it mean any exercise in power? Cuz I think you need to do at least a little of that to achieve anything.
  
  "auth" is the opposite of "lib" duh. There's a American Prestige where Daniel Bessener argues exactly this, that "authoritarianism" means nothing at worst and "not liberal" at best.
  
  :::spoiler Tienimin Square.
  This is a bit, if it wasn't clear.

TRUE CENTRISM HAS NEVER BEEN IMPLEMENTED!
EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS BEEN OFF CENTER ON THE POLITICAL COMPASS!
Once we have true centrism, both those who want healthcare ands housing for all, and those who want extermination of lesser skull shapes will be equally unhappy as they will be getting a fraction of what they want.
THAT IS WHEN TRUE CENTRISM WILL BE REACHED AND HISTORY WILL TRULY END.
- committing omnicide via nuclear weapons so that human ideas and beliefs simply cease to exist is the way of the true centrist

"The Soviets were just as bad as the Nazis, who weren't actually that bad."
- You just reminded me of something some wannabe military historian posted here recently. They were talking about how the Soviets only lost so many people due to their military tactics (human wave attacks).
  Incredible that myth is still around
  
  An obligatory reminder that 60% of Soviet losses were civilians.
- The Soviets were just as bad as the Nazis (complimentary to the Soviets)

What are you talking about, hexbear is filled with libs, everyone knows I'm the only real leftist
- Mom said it's my turn to be the leader of the proletariat
- You are correct except that I am the only real leftist.

I heard this site was owned by the CCP so I went to the search bar and what do you know
- We've had a few people who don't understand the Moscow time thing being a joke
  
  We should have weeks where it changes to 北京时间 sometime
- You should spell it tinyman square
  
  That would've gotten results tho.
  
  Damn that would have been better

What if i compared the worst times in socialist countries with the best times in capitalist ones? That would probably make you cry
- Worst time in communism: when it implemented capitalism
- What about that one time people starved in the USSR? What about that one time China did violence on protesters? Bet you didn't know about that.
- What if I bring up awful shit capitalism did like... yesterday.
  
  that's a what-about-ism, tankie
  
  That's not real capitalism that's crony corporatism oligarchy look at sweden they do it right

Consider human nature. It's innately programmed in our brains to hoard wealth
- hoarding my cock and balls rn
  
  As is your right!

https://www.wikipedia.org/
- You do realize the only citation there is radio free Asia right?
  
  ::: spoiler Typical tankie, ignoring objective facts when they dislike them. Go give me a link to one of your little red pamphlets which aren't biased at all. I enjoy this little game we have, let me debumk you some more. I haven't even talked about Venezuela or the holodomor yet (if you haven't heard of it, here's a hint: it's one of the reasons your daddy isn't that good of a guy).
  I feel dirty now. Yuck.
  
  Oh so you didn't accept sources you don't agree with? Not very dialectical of you

I still routinely conduct ideological tests on Hexbear though.
- Any comment of yours that doesn't include a graph sometimes feel like an ideology test. If I can see a picture has been attached, then I usually know to take you seriously.

I'll take the contrary position, I find reading a dozen dunks of ppb and other derivative roasts cringe. Feels like the "two minute hate". Yeah yeah I know. I just don't like being mean.
- That's what it has devolved into, but that's not what it always was. It's because there's so few libs to go around these days so people just go nuts when there's finally meat back on the menu
- I like the accidental hybrid tactic thing we have: Heavy Arguers in front, Theory Linkers behind them, and a swirling vortex of PPB Skirmishers all around
  
  A mural dedicated to our beautiful posters
  
  I like the theory linkers but i can't be one. i just take the piss out of em. I don't have the patience for folks not ready to learn. I know the libs won't read the links, either. If a theory linker reads this don't be discouraged, tho! i usually read the links the libs don't use and learn something in their stead
  
  Heavy Arguers
  You rang?

Yeah people gave up trying to convince y'all that genocide is still bad when China does it.
- We got a live one!
- weird when Israel was committing genocidal massacres across palestine the past year there was non-stop beyond-reasonable-doubt proof that Israel was conducting an open genocide, and yet when asked for something as simple as proof that China's "doing a genocide" there's literally nothing but hot air and conservative think tank dollars to show.
- Upvoted for being just the shit stain we needed at just the right time
- Even your state propagandists had to admit it was a lie literally years ago.
  
  Clinging to the "Uyghur genocide" narrative in a post-October 7th world is a little bit fucking disgusting, don't you think?
  Israel showed the world what a genocide looks like, and Hamas showed the world how hard a people being genocided will fight back.
- Go ahead and give it a go champ no one is stopping you. Don't forget to cite your sources.
  
  Source: some guy said so
  
  Ok, "genocide is always wrong" Source: Basic human decency.

I kinda miss it too. It always amused me to see them come in here with a smug attitude to own the tankies, and then get dunked on relentlessly. But maybe it's just me and my frustration at the state of things in the West which causes me get some sort of gratification from it.

If everybody gets paid the same, what's the incentive to be a doctor?
- I literally overheard some chud on a train argue that point with a friend, and used that to conclude that that's why communism will never work. If everyone gets paid the same, then what's the challenge???
  
  He reminded me of that 20th century banker in the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone", who wakes up in the 24th century after being thawed from his cryogenic state, and then asks Picard what even the point of living is in that century if material needs no longer exist, and people's want for riches and possessions is no longer a thing. Picard skillfully schools his ass.
  
  that character is mentioned somewhere in like a star trek comic or novel or something. Turns out he defected to the Ferengi lmao
  
  Me: what's the point of being alive if i have to constantly be looking for more income to survive
  That fucking guy: what
- Idk, Cuba seems to pull it off.
  
  Yeah by forcing people to become doctors at gunpoint. Slave doctors are still slaves

The gap in understanding was really something to behold, like being Dracula and every once in a while some villager shows up with a wooden crucifix and some prayed-over creek water, thinking they're gonna be the one to banish the monster.
- I liked the bit I had going during election season where I just linked them the last person I argued with, since they all said the same. Ended having a link-chain of 8 or so.
- Actually you tankies are more like voldemort and I'm the legendary guy with the scar who's here to maintain the status quo
  
  We know that JK Rowling didn’t originally intend Harry to be a cop because if she had she would have named him Thumble Wifebeater
- Honestly I almost feel like we should loosen the mod policy to let some back in. It was a good bonding exercise for us, I felt like we all got along better when we had Libs to dunk on.
  
  I've said this since forever. People talk about hexbear pre-federation as if it was a good place. It was stale, full of people arguing over rocks and when they weren't doing that they were posting about how much better a site this is than Reddit.
  
  You can just go outside of hexbear to lemmy dot ml and get the same thing.

Me too, dunking is fun. We ban them too quickly now and also everyone knows to stay away from us by now
- now they just make up shit about us to get mad in their defederated instances
  
  They did it when we were federated too. It was fun