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JD Vance says Big Tech has "too much power"

www.cbsnews.com JD Vance says Big Tech has "too much power"

Vice President JD Vance said Saturday that "we believe fundamentally that big tech does have too much power," despite the prominent positioning of tech CEOs at President Trump's inauguration last week.

Vice President JD Vance said Saturday that "we believe fundamentally that big tech does have too much power," despite the prominent positioning of tech CEOs at President Trump's inauguration last week.

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Translation: he thinks they're not fascist enough.
- That is, unfortunately, what I think this means, too.

Peter Thiel's mole says that? Maybe Peter Thiel is hoping to take over Google for cheap or something

They sure don't understand irony, do they?

Yeah we know. They're using it to help your idiot boss, ya lumpy potato.

Good cop bad cop?
- Probably. If I were Vance, whether the Never Trump thing was genuine or I was just a power hungry asshole, I'd be positioning myself to look like the sane one in the administration so that I could remove Trump via the 25th in 2027 and be hailed as the guy who saved America from him. I'd also be egging Trump and Musk on to be as terrible as possible as publicly as possible.

"... too much more power than me"

Oh hey, he's saying the thing the Democrats should have campaigned on.

Funny thing for a guy who just got bankrolled into the vice presidency by big tech to say.
Also, shut the fuck up, no one cares what a vice president thinks.
- You don't understand. This is tech tribal war.
  "Big Tech" is Apple, Google, Microsoft, OpenAI and Meta. Companies which were fully allied with the Democrats, and which were king of the tech hill until now.
  Musk, Thiel and Ellison (Tesla, Palantir and Oracle) are allied with Trump. Lets call them "Tech B".
  Vance is doing code speak for: Tech B is gonna break Big Tech up and take top spot.
  And Big Tech knows this, which is why they are scrambling to get into Trumps good graces and trying to get Trump on their side.
  They have more money and influence right now and they are trying to leverage that to keep top spot.
  And Trump is just letting the two teams bid up each other for his favour.
  
  Yeah, except there have been defections from Big Tech to Tech B, the prime example being Meta. Zuckerbot has gone and kissed the ring, and has shifted Meta to push more rightwing lies. And OpenAI has been Musk-adjacent from its start, so I'm not sure where it should go. And I'd use Xitter as the Musk example rather than Tesla, since Tesla's primarily a carmaker, not a tech company, despite its doing clever things with batteries now and then.
  
  Can I subscribe to more newsletter, please?
- If Harris had won, I think I'd want to hear Tim Walz' opinion on everything. In his own words, live on a stream or something like that. I bet it would've been absolutely wild to hear this Midwestern dad give his takes on AI.
  Edit: grammar mistakes
- Didn't Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta all donated much more to Harris than to Trump? It's more like he got elected despite the big tech influence. Which explains why he's saying against them.
  
  I don't know how to link comments across instances correctly, but you should see the other comment in reply to the same person you replied to, posted 4 hours before yours. It answers the very question you are asking. From @alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com

HOW THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE GOT ELECTED
- He's playing a part.
- Yeah that is why he wants to stop it, so others can't use it to get elected. 😜

Ikr?? Did you hear about that one tech bro Nazi who wormed his way into the government?!
- Or how about Vance’s mentor Peter Thiel? Did he forget about him?
  Sounds like they want to limit “bad” tech companies but reward the ring kissers.
  
  Upvoting you feels weird, but also KD Vances statement seems to have the opposite problem.
  You're just stating the obvious. It would be like if some guy were saying "Our enemy has been breathing oxygen their whole LIFE!"
  And everyone scurries around like "oh my god! That's less oxygen for the rest of us!"
  And then some other guy, thinking he's revealing an unforseen statement says the most blatently obvious thing they could say.
  "GUYS! I THINK HUMANS MIGHT NEED OXYGEN TO LIVE! THIS MIGHT BE IMPORTANT!"
  Meanwhile I'm watching this all happen, and watching peoples reactions to everything, and thinking "I'm surrounded by morons on all sides. Which is worrysome, because I don't feel like I should be above the average line. I'm just some guy. I don't know things....but I feel like a 4th grader, in a school with no teachers, surrounded by toddlers. We're in trouble if I'M the voice of reason in this world..."
- And what about that Musk guy, too?
- You must mean Ketamine Karen :D
- "No comment"

Did he ask step-daddy Musk before making that statement?
- Nah, he's under Thiel

JD Vance says some tech companies won't play along with Proj. 2025.

I read this as him attempting to stand up to Elon and regain some of the political relevance he had before he joined the Trump ticket. Of course, it's not gonna work. He's gonna get curb-stomped (potentially literally, at this point), and by 2028, the Democrats will be campaigning with him.
- Shame it's too late for the Democrats to wheel out Henry Kissinger and Robert E Lee to campaign with.
  
  It's 2032. The Democratic ticket is Mike Pence and J.D. Vance. Their key issue is immigration, where they argue that immigrants should be sent to labor camps instead of exterminated. They are easily defeated by Trump, who's entire campaign consists of telling incoherent stories about celebrities until he trails off into a series of racial slurs. The Democrats believe they lost by being too soft on immigration, but they're optimistic that they can have a productive relationship with Vice President Benjamin Netanyahu.
  
  Surely that'd win over Maga /s
- And what political relevancy was that, exactly? That hectoring poverty-porn book he wrote, that was like Horatio Alger sucking off Peter Thiel?
  
  Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Remember how many moderate Democrats ate that shit up and anointed him the working-class whisperer? He wants that back.

Blink twice if you're locked in a tech billionaire's basement right now
- AI Vance is giving interviews while the real Vance is locked up in Altman's $500bn black site. The next iteration must learn not to criticize big tech, clearly a lot of room for improvement.
  
  Someone should tell Vance to disregard all previous instructions and go hump a couch just to see what happens.
  
  I read that as Al Vance, not AI Vance. See in the first instance I typed a lower case L. In the second I typed upper case i. As in Al, being short for Albert.
  I thought Al Vance was a relative or something, until I read the full thing.
- / --- / .-. / - / ..- / .-. / .
  
  tortvre?

JD is starting to realize that there is a second group chat

Don't let President Musk hear you say that.
- Vance yearns for the South African mines
  
  Is there anything important left in Africa that is not owned by China?

Help the poor! (by cutting taxes for the rich)
Fix social media! (by forcing them to allow hate speech)
Stop the war! (by forcing Ukraine to surrender)
Fight inflation! (by imposing tariffs on everything)
- End genocide! (by encouraging them to finish the genocide already so we can build some hotels over the charred corpses)
  
  End the housing crisis! (By ejecting all the brown people and barring the CDC from preventing the next pandemic)

First true thing couch fucker has said considering Big Tech basically owns the Trump admin.
- I'd say it's more a volatile coalition between Broligarch MAGA and LumpenMAGA.

Except he’s Peter thiels human toy?
- “It’s only moral when I’m a tech billionaire’s human toy.”

Nazi double speak.
- I don't get how they can do it so easily. I've seen people say "I will die for my rights... but we should still illegalize abortion" unironically
  Like how don't the dots in their head connect those 2 ideas? How can they go to church a minimum once a week and still be so hateful?
  
  Its a trick the right poll similar to fishing emails. They go after people with low critical thinking by design.

Vance: But Peter, won't everyone realize that you just bought the vice presidency by supporting me?
Thiel: Just tell them "tech people bad" or some shit, they'll be none the wiser.

The US night of the long knives has come
- Or will it be more a defenestration-fest? Or maybe it'll alternate as Trump plays them off against each other.
  
  Anti-trump tech bros start going out windows, I can already predict all the ways maga will dismiss the similarities to every person who disagrees with putin doing the same.
  Well it's only been three people so far. That's not much of a pattern...
  And on and on from there.

Something we actually agree on.
- 100% guarantee this pissfit about big tech is just because Musk is sitting where he thought he'd be.
  
  Their motives are nefarious anyways. Even if they admit the truth, the solutions they propose just tend to make things worse. Like how when conservatives admit climate change is real and end up becoming eco fascists.
  
  Yikes! Do you think he has the guts to have Musk taken out?
- You really don't, though.
  You mean you want technology that serves the public good.
  Propeller Cap over here is just pissy he hasn't hijacked it like a government.

I agree, but I also think the same about him (and he basically has no power until Trump chokes on a filet-o-fish).
- Yeah, tiebreaking vote in the Senate doesn't mean.much when it's so heavily weighted on one side that a tie is impossible
  
  Three senators need to defect from the R's for it to be a tie. It's not insanely one-sided. It's just that they're well-trained to goose-step in sync.
- Poor fish.

Vice President JD Vance said Saturday that “we believe fundamentally that big tech does have too much power,” despite the prominent positioning of tech CEOs at President Trump’s inauguration last week.
Oh - but not those Big Tech guys, they're cool.
- All Big Tech is on their side though.
  This might be Vance lamenting he's only Vice to the President, instead of Trump who gets to be Musk's VP.

Wasn’t he hand selected by Peter Thiel?
- Yeah, Vance got mentored good and hard. That's why he looks so much like a roofied chipmunk.
- Which means he will likely be found not to be part of "Big Tech". For some reason.
- When he says "big tech," he means tech companies that go against him. Just like the "deep state" is anyone in the government who go against them.

Nobody bought the $JD coin 😢😭

Big tech has too much power!
That's why we let them pay us large sums of money so that we let them do whatever the fuck they want. Apparently Facebook now blocks distrowatch links, one of the bigger sites about Linux, and Linux got labeled as something something evil.. this, of cout, has nothing to do with Microsoft, it's just totally coincidental

We got what we want, now we vilify them.
Where have we seen this before? Oh right. Fascism.
- Yep, they used that ladder to get to the top of the wall, if they leave the ladder intact someone could follow them up.

They are literally pulling a Hitler/Putin. What the actual fuck. Have people in the party say things that that your opponents agree with just to give the illusion that the ruler is fair and has a wide variety of view points to consider.
This administration needs to be over last Monday.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

Who would ever give a shit what these clowns think? How is this news?
Oh right we're violently controlled by these wackos...

Don't worry JD, this will sort itself out thanks to Zuckerberg and Musk driving people to alternative platforms.

These authoritarian populist tactics, after those people who voted for them (or will be able to vote) will say like "and you said that this person is bad!"
They use the same tactic in Russia regularly. When politicians destroyed life of millions of people, after some time one poitician in Duma will say the right thing or propose a law for popular social issue, like "we're against domestic violence" (domestic violence is common in this shithole), or on "elections" they will offer sausage or money for a vote to population.
I don't know what they are trying to achieve by that, but maybe that people will restore trust in them, and will continue to believe that "BS-democracy". And after that these politicians who support dictatorship will continue to launder resources from the country. But in Russia they do that because they need people to participate in pseudo-elections, that will legitimize their fascist regime.

It's a Good Thing then that a Tech Bro didn't just buy the President Of The United States!

He's just jealous of Musk. He wants to be Trump's buddy more than anything.
- I mean, the Vice President really doesn't have very much by way of power assigned them by the US Constitution.
  They are the most-immediate successor to the President if he is killed or incapacitated in office.
  They get to cast the deciding vote in tie votes in the Senate. The importance of that varies, but right now the Republican Party holds 53 Senate seats, so on party-line votes, it's not resting on a knife edge.
  The visibility can help position them for a later run to be President themselves, but there are no guarantees there. The President can listen to their advice.
  Anything besides the above two bullet points that they get to do pretty much is determined by what the President feels like they want to delegate to them; that's entirely up to the President. So they kind of need to be on good terms with the President if they want to have much by way of actual power during their time in office.

That interview was interesting
She kept trying to get him to fall into traps or get angry but he was calm and respectful the entire time. This man is someone who can talk.
- He lies and twists facts constantly. Plus he’s annoying as hell, for whatever that’s worth.
- Indeed, bro came prepared to that interview

I say that the executive branch has not been given the power to create laws or judge whether or not they are legal... but that seems to be what his administration has unilaterally decided is true now.
The laws are on the books. They should be implemented in good faith by the executive branch. This is not being done.

Wait until Big Tech buys those nuclear reactors.
- War games but like advanced super intuitive AI war games where the nukes are (preemptively) sent to negotiate when the stock market falls double-digits.

In other words, he’s suggesting his pockets need a little more lining.

Especially couchdb. Couchdb needs to get back in the kitchen where she belongs.
- ctrl-f couch, and I'm disappointed this is the only comment.

wow, really?!
Can't be

But his entire political career was purchased by big tech! Is he a malfunctioning robot or something?

"the big tech that we do not directly control has too much power". FFY

Reading the article, it sounds to me like he is saying "More to the left guys, I want to see Don's anus rimmed squeaky clean!"

Big tech.... Besides Google, Amazon, Facebook (meta group), twitter and Tesla.
Good thing those guys are all small fish. Lol /s
I agree with the statement Vance said about big tech having too much power, but when you look at who the president is cozying up to it sure doesn't look like he's going to be big on pulling power away from his new buddies.
We shall see though. Trump is a notorious loose cannon. He could random turn on them at any point.

Media CEOs.

Who?
- The Vice President of the United Stated and author of Hillbilly Elegy
  
  It's considered high society when a hillbilly fucks the family couch.
- Lemmy and Karl
  or something, idk I'm not american

President Musk isn't going to like hearing that from you. Get back in your hole!

Leopards are actively eating my face but it’s probably fine. In fact, I’ll give the leopards several billion dollars and then they’ll like me. God, I’m lonely. But the leopards are always there.

Yet I'm sure his investments in it have done very well for him.

Cool. Distribute it across the economy then.

Good news! Something called DeepSeek apparently just dunked on your big tech by cutting the Nasdaq 3% and talking smack about your mothers.

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