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Russia allegedly invests billions in disinformation campaign to sway German elections

uawire.org Russia allegedly invests billions in disinformation campaign to sway German elections

Russian authorities have funneled significant funds into creating a network of hundreds of thousands of fake social media accounts, forging news sites, and disseminating false information. The Putin regime allocates up to two billion euros annually for large-scale disinformation operations in German...

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Not just german elections. Also did to usa elections, here in orbanistan, slovakia, romania, etc...
- even Ukraine over the last 6 years, and georgia. and as i've watched things playeout after the last 20 years, i can say with confidence: no event is too small for russia to interfere. they desire total global dominance. they will do anything to achieve it. and the easiest way ho weaken everyone else is disinformation to make us all live in our own individual customized reality

For a bit of context, elon is supporting the far right AfD. And AfD is pro russian oil and anti nato. Nato which might have to intervene if a nato member is attacked by russia.
If there is any party russia is supporting, it has to be AfD, imo that would make the most sense.
- At the end of the day you are either with russia or with usa. Politicians job is to lie to people and get votes but their actions once they are elected are always clear. You are either with usa or against it.
  At this point I would say you're either for democracy or against it. The USA has little to do with it, especially with Cheeto Benito currently in charge and doing his best to build his own little fascist kingdom. If you're pro-democracy in Germany, you don't have to like or support the US one bit, but you do need to be against AfD.

Damn! I'm shocked! I would've never assumed

And I would bet some of that money is coming from Elon
- Laundering through Elon.

Classic Russian meddling.

While I have little doubt they are spending many millions on it, I sort of doubt it's billions of euros. They link a telegram source, which talks about German Intelligence. Not impossible, but not an easily verifiable source.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
It just seems rather unlikely they are spending that much on disinformation when the have a real and present war in front of them with huge hardware/personnel loss, and have a waning treasury.
- This is hybrid war. AfD and other Russian friendly parties winning means less or less reliable aid to Ukraine
- They want to spend 2 billion euros on disinformation so they don't have to spend 5 billion euros on their military.
  For example, if they spent 2 billion getting Trump elected and he cuts off US support for Ukraine, that 5 billion would be an absolute bargain for them.
- I hear you, but what does it really matter? An (or many) orders of magnitude more than any other country would spend, or even consider.
  They're doing it because it's working. They've got America on the ropes and didn't have to nuke anyone.
- Maybe they meant rubles.

Im guessing its going to the AfD
- Im not just Güssing. Its quite suspicious that a lot of their politicians have ties to Russia.

No. Shit. They do in the US too. It worked twice now.
- And in Bulgaria(?) too. There they had to redo the elections because of this (if I remember correctly)

Worked great in the US, Nazi space karen definitely helped get trump elected

"Allegedly."

Vladi, you want my vote? Give me some monry.

- No, the premise is that the Nazis want to buy russian oil and gas and stop military aid to Ukraine. They also want to end Schengen, leave the Eurozone and maybe even leave the EU. All things that could destabilize all of Europe and the AfD in power helps empower other european extremist right parties, cascading those destabilizing effects through the entire Union.

- Does the hundreds of millions Elmo spent to elect trump count as russian meddling?
  Survey says: Yes.
- Musk is Xi's (and also indirectly) Putin's Bitch

- All that OR
  Russia can't handle foreign countries having fair elections.
  Surely you've heard of occams razor?

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