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2w ago

Little has changed in 148 years

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I remember hearing about this from the The Dollop, and it made me a bit bummed that anti-china is just a deeply rooted in American labor. It's really stupid because the average dude in China has no real beef with you, so why have beef with them? Hate your boss, not your fellow worker.
- Gotta remember they really started pushing division among the working class (both free and enslaved) after Bacon's Rebellion back in the 1600's. This shit is engrained into the US's culture.
- And then there's all the lynchings and massacres of Chinese-Americans and other Asian minorities when doing those things to black and indigenous people didn't actually solve whitey's problems 😀
- Probably the wealth of Americans is based on the suffering of the third world.
  I think 99.9% of Americans would think inside of their heads that being able to to afford a car every 5 years by vaporizing a whole city is a good trade off
  
  I think 99.9% of Americans would think inside of their heads that being able to to afford a car every 5 years by vaporizing a whole city is a good trade off
  Goddamn that's 100% true. I don't even want my car (I have to one because there is no alternative) but the idea of needing to "upgrade" every 3-7 years is insane to me. I want to keep this one vehicle until the wheels fall off.

"When the Chinese question is settled, we can discuss whether it would be better to hang, shoot, or cut the capitalists to pieces. In six months we will have 50,000 men ready to go out ... and if 'John' [the Chinese] don't leave here, we will drive him and his aborts [sic] into the sea ... We are ready to do it ... If the ballot fails, we are ready to use the bullet."
Ah yes, the "Chinese question" and driving them into the sea... Wow, this guy REALLY didn’t hold back, did he?

But at least he got dumped on pretty hard by a Chinese rights activist:
Wong went up repeatedly against anti-Chinese activist Denis Kearney, heckling him and at one point challenging him to a duel, and giving Kearney his choice of weapon: chopsticks, Irish potatoes, or Krupp guns.
- When the Chinese question is settled,
  They're cool, question settled, good job everyone.
- Wong went up repeatedly against anti-Chinese activist Denis Kearney, heckling him and at one point challenging him to a duel, and giving Kearney his choice of weapon: chopsticks, Irish potatoes, or Krupp guns.
- I’m sure that nazi germany would improve working conditions for the chosen race once all the undesirables are eliminated.
  I’m sure that the bargaining power will increase after we increasingly support shoving people with my similar class interest into the gas chambers
- and giving Kearney his choice of weapon: chopsticks, Irish potatoes, or Krupp guns
  Chinese humour doesn't fail lmao
- The duel weapon choice bit is so good, yet is there some special context for the krupp gun part besides being big cannons (and so ridiculous)?
  
  I’d say it’s most likely just the size. Although I don’t think those guns would actually be that ridiculous. Just put them on 2 neighbouring hills and you could have a nice artillery duel. A bit more interesting than watching 2 men fight each other with potatoes, I’d assume.

There’s a whole section in settlers devoted to this shit lol

see also John Franklin Miller
The California state legislature elected the Republican Miller as one of the state's two Senators in 1881. He was an outspoken proponent of several bills to limit the influx and influence of Chinese immigrants. He expressed his sentiments during passage of the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act:
"One complete man, the product of free institutions and high civilization, is worth more to the world than hundreds of barbarians. Upon what other theory can we justify the almost complete extermination of the Indians, the original possessor of all these States? I believe that one such man as Newton, or Franklin, or Lincoln, glorifies the creator of the world and benefits mankind more than all the Chinese who have lived, struggled and died on the banks of the Hoang Ho."
— 13 Cong. Rec. 1,487 (1882).
- At least 25% of AP US history was shit like "the <ethnicity> exclusion act of <year>".
- It's great to see how his views survived except you can't actually say that anymore and it all has to be couched in other terms
  
  A central idea in Domenico Losurdo’s masterpiece Liberalism: A Counter-History is that liberalism was, from its very beginnings, an ideology that sought to justify slavery. Hagiographers of the Founding Fathers and American independence love to portray it as a triumph of “freedom-loving peoples.” According to this story, slavery was merely a lingering imperfection, a backwards holdover righteously stamped out by the Civil War early in the nation’s history, and whatever regrettable byproducts of slavery that remain don’t fundamentally challenge the identification of liberalism and Western democracy with “freedom” as such. Losurdo argues, however, that liberalism is better understood as an ideology produced to satisfy the need felt by capitalists (business owners, entrepreneurs, etc.) to justify their rebellion against the monarchy while simultaneously justifying colonialism, Manifest Destiny, the genocide of indigenous people, chattel slavery, and the active suppression of workers’ rights.
  from Really Existing Fascism
- Upon what other theory can we justify the almost complete extermination of the Indians, the original possessor of all these States?
  This is such an weird thing to say in his position.
  It's definitely acknowledging that what happened was mega-fucked, or at least would be without proper justification.
  But it's so wild to me to be open about your moral philosophy being based on cope.
  My best guess would be that it was Very Bad to suggest that the folks who paved the way for their lives were anything but saints? There's a YouTube video (innuendo studios maybe?) that talks about conservatives viewing individual people as good or bad vs viewing actions as good or bad (which leads to e.g. "the only moral abortion is my abortion"). Under that lens, Good People do Good Things, and the people who genocided the native americans were Good People, therefore there must exist a reason that it was a Good Thing?

Idaho once had the largest concentration of mandarin-speaker in the us, along with one the biggest chinatowns in the west. Modern day people think of Idaho as an eternal white place, dominated by a caucasity untouched since the arrival of the settlers.
- That's funny, Kelowna had that too
  In 1911, Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat-sen visited Kelowna for fundraising. At that time, approximately 15% of the population was ethnically Chinese.[19]

WHITE SAN FRANCISCO COCKSUCKER!

who must go?

Wait, is the baking soda company racist?

Didn’t Teddy started his ascension into politics by being anti-Chinese and pro worker?

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