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Proton CEO embraces Trump for "standing up for the little guys"

Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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Proton CEO embraces Trump for "standing up for the little guys"

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Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?
- Keep in mind this is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG
  
  Still a decision maker and able to convince other members though.
  
  still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you're cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise
  
  Thank you.
- Tuta?
  
  Enshittifying
- Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?
  I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code
  
  disroot.org maybe
  I like them
- Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative

The fuck? Way to flush the credibility they built down the drain.
- Money.

I guess Andy or the proton social media team has started using the corporate bluesky account to discuss it now.
https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3lfrqm6wpzs2p
- Oof, using the Official brand account to post shit like this? 🤨
  Did the other 4 board members of his Non-Profit organization (that owns Proton AG btw) approve this, or did Andy Yen got too comfortable and see himself as a king?
  
  Absolutely big off to post that shit from an official account. He's not the only one working at Proton and this is not going to play well with proton users.
  I'm seriously thinking about looking at alternatives. He must've gotten too much money now and gone republican.
  Anti Commercial-AI license
- interesting that it's deleted now
  anyone got a screenshot?
  
  Wow they really need to get in check. I do have the screenshots
- We didn't get what we wanted so we choose evil.
  Never used em but i feel for people who did.
- Muted and blocked. Got it.

No one going to comment the Trump absolutely did not write that? Read it; completely coherent, proper English, all that.
- Not one all caps word. No fuckin way he wrote that.
  
  Well... The word "FAIRLY" was written in all caps.

Was considering them, now I'm not. I'll keep using mullvad.

Yikes. I was just about to shell out for Proton VPN, but now I won’t.
- I would suggest Mullvad as a trustworthy alternative.
  
  I too can vouch for Mullvad, excellent service and privacy

Speedrun any% to kiss that ring

I was wondering, is proton as trustworthy as everybody says? I generally dislike it because its closed source, but that makes sense considering they have to host servers. but this makes it seem... uncredible. any alternative to protonmail?
- I generally dislike it because its closed source
  I mean, the user clients are open source (right? correct me if I'm wrong). So if you compile it yourself, it should be safe.
  So for the contents of email, drive, calandar, those things should be safe. They could secretly keep a log of metadata and IP addresses, tho. The VPN, yea that is basically just requiring trust
  Also, Proton AG is now controlled by a Non-Profit organization, Andy Yen is only one of the five board members.

Proton better shut this dude up as I really don't want to find a new platform :|
- bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)

ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won't give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh

I just dislike that they had to take a political stance at all. Companies and celebrities should stay out of politics and focus on what they're good at/known for.
- Don't agree completely. Celebrities are people too, they can use their voice to do good and activate people with regards to politics. Kinda cruel to just say "focus on what you're known for, which is a pretty face. I don't care about anything else that makes you human"
  
  I feel like the rules are different here. This dude is not a celebrity, he is a CEO of a company which mission is to provide a secure and private email service. I don't care about him as a person, he represents his company here. His job is to make sure that the data of his customers does not get in the wrong hands, and being as apolitical as possible is part of it. (Unless it's speaking up against laws that will undermine his business such as banning encryption, but that's not what's happening here).
  
  Their reach means they should shut up when it comes to things they have no credibility in. I don't want a physics professor giving their opinion on RNA vaccines in their class just like I don't want the singer for a major band giving their opinion on politics.
  
  I'm talking about Musicians playing music, actors acting, sports people playing sports, etc. stick to what they're good at and known for, not a pretty face.
- I mean, I don't agree with his politics. But this opinion is no different than telling football players to shut up and play football when they were speaking out against systemic violence against minority black communities.
- Echo the disagreement. Yes it makes like more complicated, but it is important to know who/what you are supporting.
- Not normalizing traitors to the species isn't exactly "political", it's the lowest imaginable bar, and he couldn't clear it.
  
  I'm sure all these species traitors will be put to the wall when aliens invade. Earth is for humans!

FFS. Unfortunately there really isn't a good alternative to Proton right now (don't @ me about Tuta until you've seen how much downtime they had recently).

I believe that but it would be good to have a source and an archive of the original tweet.
- https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660
  https://archive.is/l1WYU (idk why archive.is is taking so long to archive it... but wait a bit and the archived link should be up)
  Not the first time, he also paised trump for... checks notes posing for a photo right after he (supposedly) got shot.
  https://x.com/andyyen/status/1812442643726537182
  https://archive.is/ADc8C
  Like that was the dumbest thing to do after getting shot, standing out in the open so a second shooter have time to aim again, how is that worthy of a praise?
  But keep in mind, this guy is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit organization that owns Proton AG.
  
  Thanks, you're awesome! (I could not find those sources by myself...)
  
  If the other 4 don't get rid of him, they're just as complicit. I'm giving them 3 months to decide.

They use examples of when they did pro-left actions in the apology and explanation , but they never once proclaimed with their official account support for the left, and that's the difference.
The apology and explanation fell way short of the mark. He tried to appease the facists and alienated Proton top clients.

Does anyone have info on the ‘two anti trust bills’ the official account is talking about?
- The two antitrust bills associated with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer are:
  American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA): Sponsored by Sen. Amy Klobuchar, this bill aimed to prevent Big Tech platforms like Amazon from favoring their own products over competitors' in online marketplaces[1][3].
  Open App Markets Act (OAMA): Led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, this bill sought to curb Apple and Google's dominance in the app ecosystem by promoting fair competition and limiting self-preferencing[1][3].
  Despite bipartisan support, Schumer did not bring these bills to a vote, effectively stalling their progress[1][3].
  Citations: [1] Schumer Kills Bills Big Tech Feared Most | TIME https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/ [2] Senate leader Schumer met with Microsoft President Brad Smith to ... https://fedscoop.com/senate-leader-chuck-schumer-met-with-microsoft-president-brad-smith-re-anti-big-tech-bills/ [3] Schumer Accused of Caving to Big Tech as Antitrust Bills Languish https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/17/schumer-accused-caving-big-tech-antitrust-bills-languish [4] faq https://www.google.ca/policies/faq [5] Big Tech And Its Congressional Allies Kill Most - HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com/entry/big-tech-antitrust-bills-chuck-schumer_n_63a20cd6e4b0aeb2ace81d7d [6] Progressives pressure Schumer to call a vote on tech antitrust bills https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/22/23273924/progressives-antitrust-reform-bills-klobuchar-chuck-schumer-aico [7] With clock ticking, battle over tech regulation intensifies https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/27/antitrust-tech-battle-congress/
  
  Thank you very much!!

Maybe he is talking about height?

Makes sense. The little guy did vote for Trump
- Not with the obesity rates among the conservative base.
  
  Yes, even obese people can vote. What's your point? Or are you confused about the phrase? It's not literal, FYI

Aiming to be "the lesser of two evils" just means people who don't have the exact same values as the party occasionally reaching a different conclusion...
It wouldnt be an issue if the goal was a "good" candidate, it's only when the goal is "slightly better by the bare minimum"

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