Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th January 2025 - awful.systems

eh? I don't see Jackie D's keynote in the schedule, did the threat of a sit-in make them delete it? https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/ edit: oh, it's linked from Drew's post.

The people of Muskogee will have their revenge on Jack Dorsey

I have spent the last half-hour in the angry dome

Thanks for sharing this. Also

using your own head must weigh far too heavy

absolute chef's kiss

mv protonmail protrumpmail

fucking hell. well i guess moving all my shit elsewhere has become my midweek project instead of my procrastinate-project.
EDIT: [rereads and comprehends the tuta addendum] well. cool. i think i'm going to reschedule that "move everything" to after my "scream and cry into a pillow". anyone have any other recs?

proton’s ceo is, at this moment, trying to post through it on multiple official company accounts

thank fuck I switched to tuta

[I hold up a hand to my earpiece and make a horrified face]

a second milkshake has hit the duck (cw: fetishized racism, you know the one)

I’m waiting to hear back from tuta about what the fuck but this might be the reason why I hop providers again

i wonder where his roman empire fascination fits the pattern? also, who's next, maybe thiel?

my first thought on hearing the same was "if this is what he's like in public, imagine what it's like at home"

Does creating a cover of Get Low called "Z-Pain" for your wife, or commissioning the creation of a giant green statue for your wife strike you as the sorts of things someone in an unhealthy marriage would do? I think not!

@o7o7 @blakestacey

This does have "Divorced Dad" vibes tbh

I wish that men would go to therapy instead of going full fascist. Fuck this whole society. The West cannot fall sooner.

how do you even define "raw, intellectual horsepower" and how does it differ from knowing how to formulate questions mother fucker

What they promise: intelligence systems, revolutionary agent which can take over tasks!

What we get: https://youtu.be/izazdBpraC8

yoooooooooooooo

I hope Toni Basil and the Ting Tings get big royalty cheques.

of course it is one in a long tradition of tech-tangential songs, including this banger about the inevitable collapse of tech bubbles

Paul I am begging you to actually write out a fucking timeline. Apparently woke started in the 80s in universities when the (white) civil rights protestors of the 70s got tenure in the 60s, as an inevitable and predictable extension of political correctness in the 90s. From the title you're obviously going to indulge the conservative fantasy that "wokeness" is a coherent thing rather than a political tool to dismiss calls for action to actually address blatant injustice. But if you're going to bullshit me, at least do it competently and have an internally consistent narrative that allows for the natural passage of time.

I'm not reading that shit but for the masochists out there who like to read HN licking VC boots, here ya go

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42682305

If you can't get through two short paragraphs without equating Stalinism and "social justice", you may be a cockwomble.

As many writers (perhaps most eloquently George Orwell) have observed, women seem more attracted than men to the idea of being moral enforcers.

Ah, thanks Paul for validating my disdain for Orwell at least.

Man wrote nearly 5k words of pure unfiltered cap:

I'm not sure how someone can read all this without capping themselves. We could sneer this all fucking day.

The opening statement is also quite silly already (and makes me belief in a companion to the dead internet theory, the dementia internet theory, as I was sure we have had conversations like this as 'the internet' already, Zuck turning manospherian all of a sudden also makes me thing this (same with the fight over H-1B on the US right, they had that in 2018 already, Trump likes H-1B)).

We had the whole 'they act like they are morally superior' discussion already a lot, and that was about vegans. Only one problem, they are morally superior on almost all ethical/moral/ideological systems you can think of. Sure hedonists, stoics (who are not allowed to complain), sadists, accelerationist extinctionists, ironic nihilistic status quo pushing postmodernists, all disagree they are superior morally but who cares about the opinion of those people. Sure some of them might be annoying to people, but annoying people can be morally superior.

His statements about how politically correctness comes from the 80's is also wrong (it predates that, and has quite a complex history of being used by various different groups for different meanings), but at that moment I knew I was going to be wasting my time reading this as I would disagree with every paragraph. (as I have seen these types of articles before, they were popular a decade ago or so).

E2: Whoops that edit should have been on a different post. E3: bonus content: Two articles sneering at Paul, Paul Graham and the Cult of the Founder and Paul Graham, proto-techbro..

Oh well. Nothing screams healthy business like force-feeding your product to every customer who can't hammer the conveniently hidden opt-out button fast enough. I'm sure Gemini is doing great.

Coiners are terminally brain poisoned by financialization of everything. HTTP represented by three payment processors (and I don't even know if paying with Google or Apple pay involves HTTP but whatever).

Yet the money protocol is Bitcoin, apparently.

here you go

huh, pict-rs has been acting up a lot lately. I’m gonna give the whole node a quick reboot later and see if that fixes things

my pants are an anti-embarrassment protocol

ow.

The fact that DNS is "Domain Name Protocol" rather than the actual acronym (Domain Name System) is baffling and maddening.

Sorry I and some others missed this post talking about the tweet so we have two top level ones atm. My more sensational post about the subject got a bit more attention. So you were not late but early.

Really? Right in the front of the clean new thread?

Thanks, I hate it.

Many of these threads are made in good faith and out of curiousity, but often times the comments become filled with hatred, ignorance, and trolling.

You don't say.

Underlying original post: a Twitter bluecheck says,

Sometimes in the process of writing a good enough prompt for ChatGPT, I end up solving my own problem, without even needing to submit it.

Matt Novak on Bluesky screenshots this and comments,

AI folks have now discovered "thinking"

After this post I went back and read all the fallout from when they added and subsequently "paused" AI Explain and it was as entertaining as I remember (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).

that tracks

it's one of their best places to start boiling the frog

Well, it's still doing so for myself as I don't see any image.

xD oh what a delight, the one thing missing from the complete gobshite of a "database" that Mongo is was an AI to mangle your queries

isn't it racist / dumb to say they have 60 IQ?

no according to Kirkegaard

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (pause to catch breath) uh.

A well at least the mask is totally off now.

E: and a thing that has been bothering me, it is quite fucked up for somebody with Scotts education to go along with this argument about disabled people that easily.

oh my god i didn't catch that this was astro slate star and thought i was reading some overtly racist piece of shit instead of a covert racist piece of shit. i haven't kept up with him lately but this this seems very fucked up even by scott's standards.

jesus fucking christ

Only got a paragraph in because of the cheerful citation of aporia (the big Nazi website)

I love how he goes on and on about how it actually totally makes sense for the average IQ in Malawi to be 60 because most people don't graduate school, ignoring that Lynn's methodology wasn't up to any basic standard

And by love I mean I fucking hate it

I'm sure I'm not the first to note it, but there is a kind of irony in Scott and the gang using such a clear example of a motte-and-bailey argument (got to find a better phrase for that. Maybe some pithy reference to Patton at Calais to maintain the history theme? Inflatable Tank Defense?) in regards to IQ. When talking among friends they treat IQ tests like they are a strong correlate with innate intelligence, no caveats. As such IQ test scores are a reason to ignore environmental factors and not bother investing in equity-minded interventions. But when someone makes the obviously racist conclusion too visible, the argument shifts to be about how actually the correlations between IQ and environmental factors are obvious and really this supports anti racism. It's a straightforward form of decontextualization that relies on completely ignoring the entire history and contemporary arguments around IQ to defends a single data point. Of course once everyone agrees with that data point they can go right back to the wildly racist nonsense that they were doing in the first place.

It will instead be used to purchase another castle in which to perform SA

My gut says that liquidity in this context means "making sure that there are tokens available to purchase for initial buyers" or in other words listing them on the market instead of distributing them at initial purchase price.

it should be fixed… again. for some reason our image cache keeps getting into a state where it either stops accepting uploads or stops accepting requests at all. I plan to upgrade us to the latest version soon, but it’ll unfortunately involve a little bit of downtime: to upgrade pict-rs to a new point release, you have to run the migrate command, but it only works for the previous release. we’re two releases behind, so I have to custom package the in-between release just to get us there.

I am sorry you have this family member.

That o3 does well on frontier math held-out set is impressive, no doubt

I think there is plenty of room for doubt still. elliotglazer on reddit writes:

Epoch's lead mathematician here. Yes, OAI funded this and has the dataset, which allowed them to evaluate o3 in-house. We haven't yet independently verified their 25% claim. To do so, we're currently developing a hold-out dataset and will be able to test their model without them having any prior exposure to these problems.

My personal opinion is that OAI's score is legit (i.e., they didn't train on the dataset), and that they have no incentive to lie about internal benchmarking performances. However, we can't vouch for them until our independent evaluation is complete.

(emphasis mine). So there is good reason to doubt that the "held-out dataset" even exists.