Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to murdering healthcare CEO
Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to murdering healthcare CEO
The 26-year-old suspect is facing separate federal charges that could lead to a death sentence.
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Speaking to CBS, the BBC's US partner, on Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that the online rhetoric has been "extraordinarily alarming".
"It speaks of what is really bubbling here in this country," he said. "And unfortunately we see that manifested in violence, the domestic violent extremism that exists."
Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy? What about the domestic terrorists who go after the queer community, POC communities, women, doctors providing reproductive healthcare...the list goes on.
Violent extremism isn't new here. It's just that this one affects people with power.
You’ve got far right militias blowing up America’s electric grid infrastructure, threatening politicians, having standoffs on federal property, and patrolling hurricane impacted areas trying to capture federal employees that are there helping, and I’ve never heard those people referred to as terrorists.
Because they're only making the poor unhappy.
They're not only making the poor unhappy, the chaos they sow disproportionally affects the working class, the majority of the population. The more fragmented the majority, the better for the leech ruling-class minority. Chaos provides opportunity for those with power to consolidate further power - financial, social, and political.
Those people are terrorists!
Yeah, the rules of society say they won and they think all the losers beneath them just have to accept it. The social order and status quo are great for them. That something would violate it is extremely disturbing to them and provokes an emotional response.
I think that's why they seem to be so clumsily overreacting to the murder. Maybe it's working in segments of the population I don't see, but everyone in my social network is either outright happy it happened or at least get why it happened. Some will have perfunctory "murder is wrong" statements, but the thrust is about what a corrupt and evil business health insurance is. That's all the way up to the boomers and crosses political boundaries.
Things like the perp walk, excessive charges, and corporate comedy pretending everyone just thinks Mangione is a bad guy just highlights the us vs. them of class war rather than trying to somehow quell or redirect the bubbling unrest. I think they're doing this because their peers and masters are emotionally demanding a visible and recognizable show of power and obedience. If they knew what was good for them they'd be triple-timing it to make some token effort to reform the system, but even a token effort in response to the killing of a rich person would infuriate them, so clumsy performances it is.
When my usually "civil" boomer dad said he gets why he did it and wasn't outright condemning him, I knew the ruling class wasn't in control of the narrative as per usual this time.
My 75 year old Canadian aunt laughed when I showed her this
Everyone hates these people except the people who want to be these people.
I'm actually rather impressed that so many people get what's actually happening here. I don't know if it'll ultimately amount to anything, but it shows that it is actually possible to get through to people sometimes. It's a shame that no avenue but violence has been left to us to do so.
I think most people have known about the situation for years. Apathy isn't a result of disinterest or lack of care, it's a result of lack of agency and lack of hope. Now both of those are slightly more on the table.
By making a big show of this arrest, they've ensured that what they don't want to happen will happen.
They will share out of fear.
They're worried if they give that we'll go all the way and demand total equality and they'll have to be plebs with real jobs. Boo fucking hoo assholes I'd make you do my job but you're not good enough. Also you've hurt my patients enough already.
It's going to happen.
I know two things.
- Luigi didn't do it
- What happened was a Christmas miracle, the rich will only share if it's profitable or if they're scared.
If we learn something from "A Christmas Carol", it's that a rich person must go through at least 3 traumatic events before they repent.
Spot on
Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy?
No, not at all. They're only mad because for the first time, the elite feel mortal.
You ever heard of the "less dead", well, Brian Thompson is "more dead"
And for those who haven't "Less Dead" is a saying used to describe people who's deaths the police don't look into because they're "not important enough"
Many serial killers get away with their crimes simply because they're smart enough to only kill those who would be deemed "less dead"
What about the domestic terrorist corporations who assassinate whistleblowers? Or are there so many hands involved there that it’s not worth the trouble to dismantle those terrorist organizations?
Just as long as the shareholders stay happy and the line goes up.
"Nah, they cool." - these assholes, almost certainly
If someone would say this shit on the news in real time, I might actually watch it. But it's all so scripted and tame I can't bring myself to care.
What about them? They just got their picks elected as the next president and dipshit-in-chief.
Mayorkas said white nationalists are the biggest threat to domestic security. He was impeached by Nazis. He doesn't repeat bullshit about immigration. Not necessarily a standard asshole that fails upwards.
If you're going to court for any criminal charge, you plead not guilty. The DA is going to have laid the strongest charges they believe they can get a conviction on, but there is always risk in going to trial. The prosecution generally cares a lot more about getting a conviction than what charge that conviction is on, or what penalty that conviction carries.
So. You're caught dead to rights, charged with a crime. If you plead guilty, you are also waiving your right to trial, and taking whatever conviction and (probably) penalty the prosecution advises the judge.
On the other hand, if you plead not guilty, now you have the opportunity to accept a plea deal from the prosecution - changing your plea to guilty - which would include what charge and what penalty. Depending on what you've done, this can save you a lot of money, reduce or eliminate probation or incarceration time, or take the death penalty off the table.
You can always change your plea from not guilty to guilty. You can't do that the other way around. Whenever you see headlines about "So-and-so pleads not guilty," that doesn't (in most cases) mean they intend to beat the charge. It's just what you do.