Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback

Holy fuck nty. Anyone noticed how invisible she's been the election? Not really a galvanizing, new generation defining leader. Just another ambitious party member playing her role. Make room for someone who will do better for us.

More CEO's will die until moral improves.

This, like the Democratic party for the last few decades, is a bad joke.

They didn't run Clinton after she lost to trump, why would they think this is any different? Harris was not picked twice for a reason, the first time in the 2020 democratic primary and the second time after the last election. PLEASE move on to someone who hasn't lost yet for a real change and a real hope to win.

It’s pretty clear to me that a woman can’t win. As a woman myself it makes me angry, but there is just too much misogyny out there and I think n a less qualified man cough Joe Biden cough an beat Trump where a more qualified women like Hilary can’t.

(I’m not saying Hilary or Kamala is my choiceor that I like them, only that they were better candidates than Biden)

I am not from the US but always felt the world would be so different if Bernie was up against Trump instead of Hilary.

Is there a younger member of the Democratic party with a similar vibe to Bernie?

Didn't learn the first time around, huh?

the most plausible explanation I've seen so far - credit to this post (from one of the hosts of the 5-4 podcast) where I saw it first:

my suspicion is that Kamala is floating a CA governor run or 2028 run not because she thinks she has a chance but because it will help convince wealthy donors that it's still worth buying influence with her and thus help her fundraise to pay off her campaign's debts

but also Kamala ending up as the nominee wouldn't surprise me. if it's not her, there'll be a different "establishment" Democratic candidate that the DNC puts their thumb on the scale for. 2028 seems likely to be yet another "this is the most important election of our lives, it's crucial to the future of the country that you vote for whichever Democrat we tell you to vote for, now shut the fuck up and stop complaining".

Of corse she should run!

So should a bunch of other democrats, some with different ideas. All the party has to do is stay out of the way and the people will choose better than they could.

Or you could learn any kind of lesson at all and run a candidate that's actually worth being enthusiastic about instead of a centrist who's still going to be seen as the second coming of Stalin by the right.

And the ratchet clicks like three full rotations

I don't care who is in the primary but we need to get rid of the superdelegates

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Don't.

I really want us to stop throwing the same candidates back at the wall over and over.

I do think Harris got the short end of the stick, elections internationally show a significant "we'll take the other guy" vote (regardless of who the other guy is). I wish the people voting paid a bit more attention to who "the other guy" is and what they're actually proposing.

I don't have nearly this distaste for the party's platform that you do; I actually really like it ... we just need to get enough people in office that they can actually legislate without having to caucus with Republicans or on the edge Democrats.

Honestly though, I think Sanders or AOC would get obliterated. They're beloved by progressives but this country is just not a country of progressives. I think the last election showed undeniably that the economy rules when it comes to US elections.

Edit: intentionally -> internationally (dumb phone)

I hate saying it but I don't think a woman can win. There's too many patriarchial fucks in this country that might vote democrat, but not for a woman.

If we do have a 28 election, surely they'll have a primary and not just run whoever the leadership picks and proceed to campaign on our civic duty to prevent fascism (every 4 years)

Yeah, I think they just want to lose at this point. Maybe that was always the point.

I hate the democrats sooooooooo much. They are just gods damn out of touch.

hahahaha! god their even more stupid than I thought. maybe they should go look for other candidates. Seems like half the country doesn't want a women as president. They sure as heck don't want a person of color either.

I rwad the article and honestly I kinda wish I didn't. This is stupid.

No

I like OP's opinions because we're roughly aligned toward the same political ideals but he's just a touch more invested and less cynical.

We do not need Sanders or AOC, they are both party sheepdogs whose sole function is to keep disenfranchised voters rounded up in the party with the illusion of they stick around long enough they will have a seat at the table.

Bold of them to assume they will be allowed to win in 2028.

This isn’t a terrible idea. Bush Sr ran twice before he was elected. I could say the same about Biden. Reagan lost before he won.

But most importantly, if she loses in 2028 it might actually be a good thing. 2030 is the next census, and the party with presidential power usually gets trounced in the midterm. So, I’m wondering, could we stand 2 more years of pain at the top for 10 years of progress at the state and legislative level?

That all is to say, if we still have fair elections :-(

Am I the only person who thinks she’s got a chance? Sure there are hundreds of people I’d prefer, though.