Reddit is removing links to Luigi Mangione's manifesto
Reddit is removing links to Luigi Mangione's manifesto
Reddit is taking down posts linking to the manifesto of the suspected shooter of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in a move that has angered many users.
Summary
Reddit is removing posts linking to Luigi Mangione’s manifesto, citing its longstanding policy against content related to violent acts.
The manifesto, tied to the suspected killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, has sparked online fascination and debate.
While Reddit allows discussion of the manifesto within its rules, posts linking to its full text—shared on Substack by journalist Ken Klippenstein—are being removed, angering users.
Critics accuse Reddit of selective moderation, as some sympathize with Mangione’s frustrations over the U.S. healthcare system, which has come under renewed scrutiny after the incident.
Supposedly his manifesto, we don't even have enough souces to confirm nor deny its legitimacy because mainstream media doesn't want to talk about it.
A defense attorney on tictok made a really convincing argument about the wording being inconsistent with a well educated author. She pointed out examples of convoluted language that read more like an average person trying to create what they think a smart and highly educated person would write. I am now convinced that the manifesto was planted.
Possibly.
Unless there's an independent, non-government funded, reputable handwriting expert to examine the writing, and compare it to any known writings he made (example: his handwriting in school assignments), I'm gonna be sus of this.
And as far as Manifestos go, it's really more of a postcard.
Yeah, they keep calling it a 3 page manifesto. One of the people interviewed said it's just 3 pages with writing on them, not like paragraph after paragraph for 3 pages.
Kids these days, not even an entire book-length manifesto like they used to write. SMH My Head 🙄
The site that hosts literal snuff videos from wars?
Those just glorify the military industrial complex - this event broke the cardinal rule of being effectively anti-capitalist.
The original Iraq war coverage back in the 90's was all about glorifying the military industrial complex. Videos of smart bombs finding targets from 20,000 ft. Clean and neat. THAT'S glorifying out military and sanitizing our wars.
i feel privileged to be able to see war footage. this hasn't really been possible for most of human history. you can look and see the brutality of war and what it really means to "die for your country"
i don't agree with censoring war videos. i'm glad that reddit abstains from this. i'm certain they will be banning it in the future. in think in near future we will not get any media outside of a giant firewall much like China
Seeing those videos turned me into a pacifist.
I don't want to censor war video footage either, but still it would be much more reasonable to do it before censoring 'violence inciting' text.
I've seen people get murdered on Reddit. Why aren't they removing those videos?
If you look at each wave of subreddit removals, it's only after it gets sufficient news coverage. That's why they aren't removing those videos.
Plus they're likely removing things that advertisers don't like, so if it gets less coverage, advertisers are less likely to notice and report it.
Spaz is worried that people give enough of a shit about him to target him. No one cares about Spez. He runs an internet forum. He has weird dystopian power fantasies where he owns slaves. The dude is a joke.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
No he isn't.
Let's not act like bunch of idiots. It's all about money. If advertisers see posts they don't like, do you think they want to see their brand next to a post about Luigi?
WE CANNOT BE THIS STUPID. It's how they win. You might be making that comment as a gag or joke, but many clearly aren't reading it as such. The answer is ALWAYS money.
You are correct, but the rest of their comment is sadly true.
Fuck Steve Huffman
“Longstanding”
Which longstanding? Reddit for the longest time had links to all kinds of gore and violence, and still did when I last happened across some before I left. “Longstanding” must mean “since we decided to enforce an interpretation of it when we wanted to go public.”
"The shareholders demanded we lie to keep advertisers"
Reddit has become a place where you have to fear saying anything. Bots are permabanning people from subs for dark humor and obvious hyperbole. The internet used to be a place you could go where people understood that mode of speech and didn't suspect everybody of being a homicidal maniac.
Reddit is performing propaganda for the US government (who represents the owner/wealthy class), just like most other social media or news sites.
Longstanding means since Reddit went public (or since Reddit started gearing up to go public)
Be a real shame if someone posted it here
“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but has our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
I was a fan of the Nintendo version.
law enforcement has been circulating their own typed copy of the manifesto because it's based off of hand written notes. I'm not sure if any journalists have seen a photo or the original "manifesto"
Reddit and mainstream media's censorship of this story is all about controlling the narrative.
There’s an Atlantic article by Charlie Warzel that references it to try to make his comments seem flippant. The news is heavily trying to create or avoid a narrative on this.
“When Mangione was caught, he had with him a note or manifesto of sorts, less than 300 words long. Near the beginning, it offers the following: “This was fairly trivial.” The phrase is cold, detached, and haunting. It might merely be the garden-variety bravado of a gunman. But the sentence also conjures a possibility that is much harder to sit with (and for the internet to latch onto). Of all the possible outcomes available, the least shared, argued over, and considered is one that the shooter alludes to himself—that what feels to all of us like an era-defining event may ultimately be unremarkable in its brutality, in its inability to effect change, and in how quickly everyone moves on.”
I feel like either of these interpretations is way off the mark. The phrase is more likely him suggesting that it doesn’t take a lot of work or a sharp mind to pull it off, which would be a nightmare for anyone trying to keep it from happening again.
That reads like a sophisticated version of something a primetime Fox News anchor would say to control how their viewers understand an event. The author picked one specific line to quote and twisted the meaning to assassinate Mangione's character and obfuscate the rest of the letter. It's straight propaganda.
If the transcript I've seen floating around is accurate, the phrase "this was fairly trivial" absolutely was about how difficult it was to pull off. The lines above and below it talk about super basic social engineering that anyone could do and the hard part of the tool engineering has already been done.
CEOs be circling the wagons rn
Is it posted on Lemmy?
“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but has our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
Yes, but I've only seen the transcript, not the original.
And I’ve seen a lot of fakes.
I've seen it many times here.
Classic Reddit: "Reddit is meant to be a bastion of free speech"
2024 Reddit: "All hail corporate! Click on more ads!"
classic reddit wasn't even about any type of speech(in the comments), it was a news aggregator site. Once it became "social media" it went off the fucking rails.
They're afraid.
Good.
Is Spez a CEO now?
Spez is a cunt
the manifesto is fake anyways. the NYPD wrote it and y’all just believe anything they tell you. fucking monopoly money? that’s some batman villain shit only a blue blood could think of.
Maybe. Have any evidence of that or should we all just believe what you’re telling us?
Lol, it's a .ml account. Of course not
This thread appearing on lemmy.world is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Fuck Reddit.
Fuck Reddit. Astroturfed garbage filled with literal and metaphorical bots
Probably because reddit doesn't want people finding out, after reading his manifesto, that the guy was a low IQ fucking moron.