Maybe they hired the wrong person for the job. This could happen with any worker no matter their country of origin.
Maybe they’re a shit manager whose expectations are not clear and who provides no training.
Maybe the employee is going through something at home that is impacting their work. It’s a good manager’s responsibility to know their workers and give them grace.
Racism is just a lazy person’s excuse for not analyzing the complexities of the situation.
Racism doesn't reduce complexity, it introduces complexity.
If you take two independent things, and then invent a rule to connect them. It's strictly additional complexity
And then for some reason people try and combat it by layering on ADDITIONAL complexity. "Have you considered there might be circumstances you are unaware of?" Like, now we've gone from two unrelated things that we've invented a relationship for to that plus some unobserved moral "dark matter" which we can't see but postulate could exist.
The simplest solution is the best.
"Hey we've got the laziest middle Easterners working for us, they're all so shitty"
"Yeah sounds like they're shitting the bed at work. Don't think it has anything to do with where they're from, though"
Idk the simplest solution seems to be “my company keeps hiring lazy people, what does the screening / interview process look like? Why do we keep fucking up on the people we’re hiring?”
Thinking this is a racist statement is not about complexity, it's just common sense to realize it's not racist. If I talk about some white man I hired, and I said he sucked, that is also racism? What should we say then... I hired "a human" and it was bad, so had to let it go? So all information about the event is cleaned away? :)
If I talk about some white man I hired, and I said he sucked, that is also racism?
It is if you specifically mentioned that he's white, yes. The problem is that you're openly stating your biases as being important to the story. However your biases are exactly that, biased. You don't know if they're relevant or not, but you feel it necessary to say anyway. That's prime prejudice. You don't know their education, history, family life, economic situation, or any number of other factors that could come in to play. But you assign importance and blame to the fact they're Indian. Racist.
Yes you should say that person you hired sucked or did not meet your expectations for the job.
Not all information is cleared away, the information pertinent to the performance of the job remains, which should be the only information that matters when the topic of discussion is someone’s job performance.
Unless, that is, you’ve met and tested the performance of every white guy available to you. Otherwise you’re painting people with the same brush. X type of people are Y is racist thinking.
When they call all Indian immigrants incompetent because they work with a couple Indian people who suck, that’s textbook racist.
Otherwise, I could call all white people stupid, all Latinos insecure and lazy and all black people pushy. But, I don’t because I know their race, color or many other unrelated traits have fuck all to do with one person’s performance.
If you’re generalizing about a population based a few people, you are racist.
Based your other comments, you are pretty damn racist. Time for a look in the mirror.
Specifically about the off shore thing, most of the companies move operations to India to cut down on costs. They then hire what labor is available for cheap rather than what is best. It's not like Indian workers (or for that fact, most country's workers) are lazy or less competent but that he has never entailed working with the brightest.
As for the immigrant thing, whilst not for Canada, but in the US, Indian Americans dominate a lot of tech jobs and have the highest median wealth for any minority, I think. So, the skill problem is definitely not a issue there.
There is a big uptick in qualified, competent people interviewing for a job and then SOMEONE ELSE doing the job. This has nothing to do with any region or ethnicity. It's just an issue that teams are facing with remote work.
The management should do their due diligence to make sure they hire the right person and train the new-hire appropriately.
Sorry but sometimes the truth seems racist. I was working at a OPG solar farm and in - 30c there were 2 middle Easterners not dressed for the weather and not doing ANY work. Months on end they would just sit down and do nothing all day. And when ya asked them they would say, were doing a good thing by "working" there.
In my last job, my manager said something along the lines of, "Client X is a cheapskate. It's not socially appropriate, but I know [stereotype] are all cheapskates."
I asked why is it a problem that they're asking for the lowest price.
Thats when someone said, "My wife is [stereotype] and she buys expensive things."
Of which, without even switching, went, "Yeah but she's a woman. I mean [stereotype] men are cheapskates." And everyone nodded in agreement.
Lol. We had Indians at my job and it was a disaster. How do you suggest anyone talks about this without being "racist"?
If a few people have bad indian workers, it makes sense to talk about it. He didn't say all Indians are bad workers. That would be racism. But speaking about his own experience is not racism.