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(CW:racism, ableism) From the blajah modlog

I'm trans and I really don't want to federated with these people if their mods are defending the -tard suffix and they aren't getting de-modded and banned. I also don't want to be federated with them if they ban critiquing western chauvinism.

Someone who is an admin and with more of a level head than me RN please talk to their admins about it.

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  • That's all I have to say for that second comment being removed. These people think leaders like Nelson Mandela are "tankies". Like even most libs can recognise why people in Africa have aligned with communists. Holy hell, even the current US Secretary Of State, Antony Blinken, can recognise that history.

    The African National Congress party, which has governed South Africa since white minority rule ended in 1994, had strong ties to the former Soviet Union, which trained and supported anti-apartheid activists during the Cold War. Nelson Mandela, South Africa's anti-apartheid hero, who died in 2013 and was a global icon, was regarded with suspicion by Washington during the Cold War and was even on the U.S. terrorism watch list in that era.

    "The Soviet Union was supportive of the freedom forces in South Africa, and of course unfortunately, more than unfortunately, the United States was much too sympathetic to the apartheid regime, so that history also doesn’t get erased, you know, overnight, it's a process," Blinken said.

    Imagine being to the right of Antony Blinken and the journalists at Reuters.

    Can't wait for some liberal to say that Mandela made the wrong decision and should have aligned with the US and NATO during apartheid. Or that Mandela was wrong to look up to Fidel, Mao and Che. I'll just leave you with some quotes from Mandela:

    "I read works by and about Che Guevara, Mao Tse-tung, Fidel Castro. In Edgar Snow’s brilliant Red Star Over China I saw that it was Mao’s determination and non-traditional thinking that had led him to victory."

    “The revolution in China was a masterpiece, a real masterpiece. If you read how they fought that revolution, you believe in the impossible. It’s just miraculous.”

    "From its earliest days, the Cuban Revolution has also been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist-orchestrated campaign to destroy the impressive gain made in the Cuban Revolution."

    "Within that international support for our struggle the Soviet Union and other socialist countries stood out. The governments and peoples of the socialist bloc gave material, moral and political support to our struggle in a manner and on a scale that we will never be able to repay."

    mandela

  • Their reason for removing your post was really "imagine being this braindead?"

    They're certainly not encouraging us to act in good faith.

  • Nelson Mandela was a communist. Was the final recipient of the Lenin Peace Prize from the Soviet Union. And (re)wrote a book titled "How to be a Good Communist" while in prison where the first lines of the book reads:

    A Communist is a member of the Communist Party who understands and accepts the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism as explained by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin , and who subjects himself to the discipline of the Party.

    His remarks on receiving the Lenin Peace Prize after finally getting out of prison are here: http://www.mandela.gov.za/mandela_speeches/2002/021028_lenin.htm

    I think this part is relevant:

    As we remember the support from the Soviet Union and the socialist states, it is fitting that we also pay tribute to our historic partnership with the South African Communist Party.

    We remember how South African communists came to the material support of the ANC at a time when the police were raiding our offices almost on a daily basis, depleting us of our resources to pay our full-time officials. We can never forget those concrete acts of solidarity.

    The SACP has been trustworthy and dependable allies over decades as part of our movement in all its formations. Our relationship with the Soviet Union and the socialist world had much to do with their presence in our ranks.

    Of course, liberals leave all of this out when praising Mandela.

    • The list of people whose socialist, anarchist, and communist politics have been written out of history is enormous. One that strikes me has always been Helen Keller. She was a noted and popular speaker in the early 20th century, but when she began speaking authoritatively about leftist struggle she was blacklisted from media and the story that gets told in schools - a story mostly about the teacher she worked with to develop speech and communication methods suitable for her disabilities - began to be shaped.

  • Anybody else think all these lib instances that are shidding and farding because they're outnumbered by our powerful posters won't be here in a year? These people are all just temporarily annoyed redditors and they'll be back on reddit before Christmas.

    • Oh, absolutely. They obviously want things to work exactly like reddit, so why wouldn't they just go back there lol

    • 100%. The only reason to stick with a shitty Reddit clone instead of just going back to Reddit is because you can't use Reddit. "Can't use Reddit" isn't a technical limitation but a social and political one. The main people who will actually stick with Lemmy are:

      1. Socialists

      2. Unhinged fascists (cryptofascists are okay on Reddit)

      3. People who engage in illegal shit (piracy, shoplifting, drug dealing, pedo shit)

      You can use this to predict whether an instance will completely stagnate and how fast an instance will become fascist. Beehaw are shriveling into irrelevance because they shut the door for all three. Lemmy.world will become fascist because they defed from 1 and 3. And once Blahaj shut the door on us, the chaser infestation in their community will only grow stronger, and their instance will eventually fall to unhinged fascists as their instance rots from within.

      • I see the critical point somewhere else. It's just not very fun managing an instance that gets bigger without getting anything in return. Especially once you establish values like freedom of speech and opinion and claim everyone is welcome to make an account, until people you don't want on your instance start joining. And that's when it spirals out of control, you start banning them because they make your experience as an admin worse, but then your users are not actually beholden to your relatively tiny instance and can go anywhere else. You're not Reddit where all the stuff happens, you're a lemmy instance and there's others right there.

        Places like beehaw and lemmy world are now getting a lot of donations and maybe they'll start paying themselves with it as a side hustle, so we'll see. The reason places like lemmygrad and hexbear are fun to browse is because we're generally all in agreement. I don't mean that we don't disagree and form an echo chamber, but that we don't have to explain basic etiquette and generally don't flame and troll each other over nothing.

        If you've been on Reddit you'll remember the dread you felt when receiving that little orange notification in your inbox.

  • Well now what do we have here? Caught in the act and no gold to pay the fine

  • Another interesting snippet of the modlog. They're an "anarchist". thinkin-lenin

    • I try to be polite when I'm on Hexbear, because I know there are a few anarchist comrades around.

      But this particular type of western "anarchist" is my absolute least favourite type of lib. Ignorant, smug, drunk on the tiniest bit of power they can get, projecting their own faults and character flaws onto the rest of humanity. Assuming everyone else is even more vile and shallow than they are. Absolute scumbags.

  • seconded

  • That's a yikes from me.

    Also, I have a family member with an intellectual disability, so it sticks in my craw when someone tries to defend it as innocent. It's fine if someone throws it out and then gets corrected (think of the Chapos, they quit using it after all), since for a long time it was "acceptable." But to try and defend yourself after correction.... lenin-rage

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