Just the basics
Just the basics
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Just the basics
Eating like that, no, you can't live like this. At least, not for long.
That's not food.
If anyone is actually on the struggle bus don't get ramen. Get rice. Buy the biggest fucking bag of rice from the local Asian store you can find. You can make enough rice to last multiple days in one sitting and the bag will last you several months to a year depending on if you have family or not
If you can spring for it buy some high protein beans or lentils or some other legume and mix them, almost every society on the planet no matter the geography invented rice and beans because it's so damn easy to store for long periods of time and will get you the protein and calories you need to survive.
Is it fun? No. But it will get you fed and it's an excellent base to throw in other things to spice it up. Get a little extra money and can afford a bit of meat and veggies? Sauteed them up and you get a full blown meal with a side dish and a porkchop/fish filet/chicken breast with your rice.
The price of rice is pretty high right now. It's still a good value, especially in bulk, but it's not as cheap as it used to be.
Make sure to put the rice in a freezer if you're going to store it for a long time. This is important to prevent bugs, especially in hot and damp weather. If that's not possible, sprinkle some dried chilis or peppers.
People make fun of this. But if you are on a poverty budget, you have to buy cheap calorically rich food as you would starve on expensive healthy options. Not to mention, most poor people live in grocery food deserts where the closest food market is a dollar general that doesn't carry fresh/healthy food.
Edit: Since people seem to think they've solved the food insecurity for 34 million Americans. I'll continue to go with organization international and domestic that actually studied this.
No, you wouldn't. The same amount of money going to dry beans and grains, some dairy and eggs, and some cheap protein goes much further. You'd even have enough left for fresh veggies and seasonings.
The intersection of poor and can't cook is just depressingly shitty and too common.
So I live in the US. I have 2 friends that got scurvy in 2017. How did they get scurvy you might ask? Let me tell you. They live about 30 mins from the grocery store in a car. Which they donât have. The closest person that can take them grocery shopping lives about 2 hours away. Plus theyâre poor as shit.
To save money they spent 3 months eating nothing but homemade biscuits (scones for non Americans). The lack of vitamin c gave them scurvy.
They live on a fixed income. My state tightened requirements for food stamps. They were fucked.
I will say that the UN came to my state several years ago. They literally called it the 3rd world and said it was the most impoverished place in the developed world. So, thereâs that.
Also cooking takes time. I make dinner every night and even with previously prepped things it's usually 20-30min every evening. If I worked 2 jobs (12-16hr) I wouldn't have the time nor energy, either.
This week I've had my eyes opened to batch cooking. We were a bit skint (not poverty line skint) and working opposite shifts to each other, so for time and money we bought in ingredients for lasagne and chilli and made a massive batch of each on Sunday.
All week I've been taking the chilli to work and the family have been microwaving the batches when Wifey finishes work.
Cost me 50% of my usual food budget this week, and we still got in all the usual stuff for lunches with fruit and such.
Downside was Wifey overcooked the lasagne, so it can be a gamble I guess, but I will certainly be making a massive batch of Chilli in the future
Now that I work 12 hour shifts 5 days a week... I only cook on the weekends. I try to make a bigger meal that saves well though. Chili, etc. after that's gone just easier things like sandwiches until the next weekend.
This person has blown money not getting the store brand. Driving farther to get real food cannot be that much more expensive, but letâs say itâs even $4 more. Youâd get your money back buying a pound of apples. As someone who didnât grow up with means, I know a lot of people with carts like this and itâs mostly just a history of bad choices.
Food deserts are places more than 20 minutes away from a grocery store. So at least that's a 40 minute round trip if you have a car. And spoiler alert, most people living in poverty don't have reliable mods of travel. It's a proven fact that processed foods provides more calories for less than fresh produce. Two oreo cookies is more calories than a apple and they keep longer. Are there some people that make poor eating habits simply because they can, absolutely! But that's not what I'm talking about. Please don't demonize people for the failings of our society.
⌠rice, beans, and a $15 rice cooker?
Iâm as lazy as they get in the kitchen. If I canât throw it in a pot, walk away, and walk back to food then itâs too much effort.
Rice and beans is cheap, quick, and easy.
That's all part of the problem though, isn't it?
I live in central Europe and veggies and fruit are one of the first things, you see when you enter a store. They're also really affordable and you can get them in pretty much every corner store all over the town as well. There isn't a place where basic fruit and veggies are more than 15 minutes walking/public transit distance from you within the city. Never had to drive to a grocery store in my life. Some places are even open at night.
Let's not blame the people for eating like this, when that's exactly what the system is set up for.
But itâs not though. Many people on Lemmy act like the US is some evil cabal trying to kill its citizens. No. The area is just big af. People went west and were mostly self-sufficient (with regards to food production before anyone starts getting angry). Now that people arenât self-sufficient anymore, instead of moving closer they stay put, but thereâs so few people that a business canât sustain itself. I understand some people canât afford to move, but some people are unwilling to
But itâs not though. Many people on Lemmy act like the US is some evil cabal trying to kill its citizens. No. The area is just big af. People went west and were mostly self-sufficient (with regards to food production before anyone starts getting angry). Now that people arenât self-sufficient anymore, instead of moving closer they stay put, but thereâs so few people that a business canât sustain itself. I understand some people canât afford to move, but some people are unwilling to
On a poverty budget a plant based diet is healthier and vastly cheaper. A bag of rice and a bag of beans is cheap.
I see you watched the Wendover Productions video.
Yes, but I lived it long before watching the video. Growing up my neighborhood was literally isolated for all the surrounding grocery stores. The poor side of town was on the west side of a major highway and all the grocery stores were on the east side. But strangly enough the west side has less on ramps to the highway and even fewer bridges to get to the other side. So you had to drive an extra 20 min just to cross from west to east. But east to west was literally 2 min. A lawsuit eventually got that "fixed" but it shows malicious intent by those in power.
I can't believe that's the best option, snacks and some weird pre made stuff
Dude I feed 3 people a month on $200 with no assistance. And we eat healthy. We splurge a little too.
It's too expensive, sure. It should be half that. And some people live near a dollar store, I get that, they're eating cat food and Vienna sausages. But this meme isn't about those people. There are waaaay too many people complaining about the cost of groceries that won't eat anything that doesn't come out of a plastic package.
Lol this is complete bullshit. What a clown.
All that produce fresh from the factory!
You see more green plants in the desert
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This is upbringing and education. If you grow up in a household that eats well and values food and cooking at home surely itâll make a difference. I wouldnât solely blame this on the individual. America sells junk food way too aggressively and way too much. I reckon there needs to be restrictions on that and even heavier taxes on junk food.
Upbringing, education and availability. There are towns in the US where the only grocery store within 20 miles is a Dollar General, creating food deserts.
Issa joke đ¤Śââď¸
There's ground beef there
Because $200 worth of real food would be about a quarter of that in America.
Have you tried buying food instead of whatever the fuck this garbage is?
Thatâs my thought as well. They NEED to buy the name brand items as well?
There are PLENTY of corners that can be cut, as well as buying items that can be made into larger meals (soups, pastas, etc.) that reheat well.
Whoever this person was needs to rethink their wants and needs, then shop accordingly to their budget.
It's a joke.
My stomach hurts just looking at it.
You are weak and your bloodline is weak, instead of sugary sweet like God intended when he invented high fructose corn syrup
If you're on a budget this is such a horrible cart... not to mention so unhealthy. I guess most of it doesn't go bad quickly at least... only positive.
That was the point of the picture ...
Average moderator shopping cart.
I don't see any food in that shopping trolley. Most of that is snacks and microwave meals.
Donât be smug about it though. Cooking might seem like an innate ability if you were raised with it but intergenerational poverty is associated with a lack of education about things like this and also a lack of access to quality food.
If youâre time poor from working shifts or multiple jobs
If due to social class or race or intergenerational poverty you lacked an education about food
If contemporary race and social class segregation means you live in a âfood desertâ that simply doesnât sell fresh produce
Have empathy. Obviously this person is suffering and needs help.
I used to cook every day. It was one of my favorite hobbies.
But then about two years ago my life started falling apart. Between divorce and a couple moves I'm barely making ends meet, in the cheapest apartment I could find (a one bedroom that I split with someone else.)
The kitchen is so tiny, the refrigerator doesn't even open all the way. I barely have any counter space, and with a longer commute (and lots of overtime) I barely have time/energy anymore to cook. Plus, I don't have a dishwasher anymore, so cleanup takes a lot longer.
I want to cook. But fuck, it's so much harder to do now. I never realized how much I took cooking for granted, back when I had money.
guys, this is a joke post
Yet it is still bringing out all the bots and trolls.
I know a lot of folks in this thread are taking the piss but imagine you are a single mother on a limited / min wage income working 2 jobs and a kid or two to feed. You need food that doesnât spoil and that you are certain your kids will eat (canât afford to waste it) and that doesnât require much if any time to prepare (you donât have time). This is how you get shopping carts like this.
People posting the Russian borscht or whatever donât get it, there are people out there that simply canât spend an hour or whatever cooking.
I mean I get it but when I was a kid it was "shut up and eat what's put in front of you"
Maybe you donât want to spend the 20 mins you have with your kid that isnât getting them ready for bed fighting about broccoli or whatever. My point is free/extremely cheap, easy access to healthy prepared foods is the solution to shopping carts like this not shaming people for their food selections. Hardly anybody over the age of 7 would intentionally choose to eat like this.
Great, that tactic worked for you. That tactic does not work for all children, or households.
Everybody forgetting about us "latch-key kids since age 6" gang?
A lot of the stuff in that cart can be cooked in a microwave, toaster or oven. Put it in, set the temp/timer, and that's it.
Pizza roll and bagel bites gang rise up!
So, let's cook like someone with limited money and time then.
1 box pasta, rice, or whatever other starch. 2 cans of veggies, which veggies is a matter of taste. Cheese, whatever they like and isn't too pricey. Optionally meat, if you have room in the budget since we're trying to do this on the cheap. Shop sales since meat is usually the most expensive thing.
Preheat oven. Mix all ingredients and toss in baking dish, either topping with the cheese or mixing the cheese in as well and topping with some breadcrumbs or similar. Bake.
This is filling, cheap to make, holds up for a few days so you can have leftovers, and the actual time you are directly acting to cook it is minimal. Vary each of the parts and you have a distinct dish in the class.
For a variation, use mashed potatoes (even cheap boxed ones), carrots, peas, and ground beef. Swap out the cheese for a jar of gravy and that's Shepard's pie.
I grew up in a povertous household that had the exact meal you describe about 300 days out of the year. Sure - If you're used to making your own meals, this is fine.
But to a lot of people this will still be a lot of time, thought and energy they don't feel able to give. And a lot of people who never learned cooking skills will feel daunted by it. If you're dealing with a lot of stress at work and/or chaos at home, you'll easily forget to turn off the baking and burn the whole dinner. It's complex when compared to most of these products which are "open, (optionally microwave/add milk/etc) and eat."
Without meat or copious cheese you'll also start running low on protein, prompting need to complicate your dishes further by exploring weird foods you've never heard of or know how to prepare, like chickpeas.
I agree that kind of recipe is a good and relatively easy meal in the grand scheme of meals, but unfortunately it's just rarely that straightforward.
Yup this looks like what i grew up eating, being raised by poor uneducated parents. Itâs all still very enticing but i try to not buy this kind of junk too often. Though ice cream is my weakness lmao.
Americans are scared to touch a bean.
Appalachia: âAm I a joke to you?â
I heard they bite
You kiddin' ? I can't strawman Americans like that, considering baked beans are an American creation...
Beans and rice go a long way to help the food budget.
No love for potatoes??
Just buy the corn syrup and iodized salt direct from the manufacturer and skip all these middle men.
I would bet most of the weight in that cart is sugar, salt and plastic.
And corn
I would've guessed metal
Plastic is way too light to hit the top 3, it's probably water or some form of fat.
Could be twice the amount when getting store brands instead of luxury brands.
While your point is well taken, luxury brands?
If those were luxury brands the ramen would be shin black
And that's exactly where the billionaires and ruling class want you.
yeah poor
Diabeetus be like: Don't worry, it won't be long to wait.
Hey go fuck yourself for trying to straw man the legitimate issue of poverty and food insecurity in America with some bullshit
Hey go fuck yourself for trying to straw man the legitimate issue of poverty and food insecurity in America with some bullshit
My first thought when I saw this picture was that he was pointing out that you can't buy healthy food that won't kill you with just $200, but after seeing the comments I'm guessing they were trying to mock people who are struggling financially?
Cause frankly if this is how they're planning to live off $200, this diet is absolutely going to kill them.
This meme isn't funny at all, I agree. I sometimes struggle to get healthy options because the prices around me keep going up. I've switched to cheaper grocery stores, got good at cooking, buy store brands, but I have to keep saying "that's too expensive now, better buy something cheaper". I don't eat a lot of processed food, but I also have a million other things to do each day, and though I'm skilled at cooking, I barely have the time. And, many people have it far harder than I do. A lot of people in this thread are too busy laughing at the shit joke to realize it's punching down and blaming the poor for being poor.
Good to know somebody figured it out
How is this making fun of poverty all of those items are more expensive than healthier options.
Those are all name brand treats this isn't poverty this is just spending all your money on junk food.
Did you not see the stupid caption on top? It's clearly designed to push the idea that poor people are poor because they spend their money on bullshit, never mind the fact that there's no fucking context, somebody just took a picture of trash in a cart and decided to say "fuck poor people" and any other interpretation is either stupid or disingenuous
Over the last 10 years or so, some kinds of convenience foods have gone up a lot. Like some types of
"value meal" is over $10. That's a bad scene if you have several people to feed.
You can beat that by cooking your own, but if you have been working a 12 hour shift that is a harsh scenario.
It just seems like people, and I'm referring to the U.S., getting food should not be such a press.
The big problem is convenience is being shoved down our throats.
10 Years back, what was there that was convenient? Bread and then stack something on it.
Now every brand is trying to shove "REALLY EASY AND FAST MEAL FOR WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 20 SECONDS TO EAT" down yours.
20 Years ago we just cooked and if it had to be quick we cooked something small.
So if you enter a grocrry store in the us two huge strong guys immediately grab you and force garbage down your throat? And the beat you until you buy some more garbage and if you so much as look into the direction of vegetables or legumes immediately shoot you?
Come the fuck on
People are freely choosing to buy this garbage
I somewhat agree but your time scale is way off.
At least in the US, it's been exactly this way for at least the last 20-30 years. 20 years ago was 2003, if you showed me this photo and told me it was from the turn of the millennium I wouldn't bat an eye. The 90s was crazy with all these fast brands and snacks. Everyone's freezer was filled with totinos pizza rolls.
Arguably longer to be honest. I can't remember a time where frozen microwave junk food didn't dominate the grocery stores and TV advertising. I wouldn't hesitate to believe an argument that it's been like this since the early 70s but assume it happened sometime in the 80s when the stay-at-home housewife transitioned to the career-focused woman.
Looks like a troll to me
Yeah it's all garbage name brand junk food
Russian DIY only!
Looks like around $30 - $40 worth of ingredients
Yoo that looks so good
No automatic assault rifle to be seen. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Uk an automatic rifle costs like $10k right?
Yes. And memes should be fun, right?
Ooo, I haven't had Velveeta in like 20 years. Now I'm going to go and eat a whole block of it, and I refuse to shoulder any of the blame or responsibility for that!
Like... just the Velveeta?
No, you really can't.
Ainât no way thatâs 200 bucks
This is yet another one of those arguments where somehow EVERYBODY ELSE is guilty but NOT ME, ohhhh no not me. I'm perfect. Haha /s
Don't they have vegetables in America?
I hope so
There's corn in corn syrup
This is what my Dad's shopping cart would look like when I was a kid (well, less sweets and chips, more canned food). He would always work 68 hour weeks, so really didn't have the time and energy to cook for me and him. He would only cook on holidays.
Luckily, he now has a stay-at-home wife that likes to cook, and I don't have to work those kinds of hours, so neither of us eat like that anymore.
Is this a bit?
No wonder u guys fat and stupid. U eat exclusively junk food.