Pro-Trump Counties Vote to Secede from Illinois, Form New Red State
Seven counties voted in favor of secession, and in six of those counties, more than 70% of voters were in favor of the measure.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/24857135
Maybe Illinois should give them what they want and stop any and all state or federal funding of the region until they beg to be let back in. I'm feeling a little vindictive today.
Keep taxing them, too, since they haven't paid for the land.
They try this bullshit every few years despite being propped up by taxes from the populated northeastern corner of the state.
Ways repubs are trying to keep control of the senate...
They're mad because Chicago having a higher population controls the vote and makes the state vote blue. But electoral college votes are by population so even if they were two states Chicago would still cancel them out anyway yeah?
There's a minimum of 3 electoral votes per state even if they are under the population required for it. They will end up stealing those votes from other, more populous, states.
There's precedent for it, with West Virginia. The problem is that the way that the Senate works makes what could have been a local issue extremely national.
Just make them like Puerto Rico where they are neither a state nor a sovereign nation.
That precedent comes with a big civil war shaped asterik.
There's a germ of a good idea in there, but they've got it backwards: Big cities like Chicago need to "secede" from their states, like the free imperial cities of the Holy Roman Empire. "Secede" here being a colloquial metaphor; the real, legalistic action would be declaring Dillon's Rule void, and taking state-like sovereignty for themselves.
It makes sense on many levels: Cities are where lots of people live close together, and their infrastructure, services, public health, and governance needs therefore are very different than rural areas. They are the economic powerhouses of the world, and we need to let the city leaders nurture that power by responding to their local needs. The political polarization divides largely on urban/rural boundaries, and our antiquated political system dilutes city-dwellers' votes and influence.
Lastly, our political system is broken, and can't be fixed entirely within the system. But tearing down the system will definitely lead to chaos. (See: actual secession in 1861.) As I see it, this would be a radical move by the cities, but it would solve a lot of issues in the political system without tearing it down. It's unlikely they'd get representation in Congress the way that free imperial cities had representation at the imperial diet, but even just getting out from under the thumb of state legislatures would be a huge step.
Weird way to break the 51st state into existence, but ok.
51th*
Part of me thinks that we’ll never have a 51st state for the same reason that the volume always ends in a 5 or 0.
Okay now I would like Dallas County to secede from Texas because Texas has an awful state government. Our top prosecutor is literally a criminal.
Texas actually has the right to divide itself into five states. If it had done so earlier, Gore and Hillary would have won the electoral college because at least one of those states would be blue.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/more-150-years-texas-has-had-power-secede-itself-180962354/
