Microsoft will charge Windows 10 users $30 per year for security updates
Microsoft will charge Windows 10 users $30 per year for security updates
Microsoft's ESU is now officially available for businesses.
Yeah. They have always done extended support like this.
Yeah I'm already switching to Linux next year, I don't need rage bait in my life.
Isn't that just the standard MS has had for extended security updates for long? Basically just "fuck you if you don't want to upgrade your old ass system we're gonna charge for maintaining that shit"
I mean I get it, though understand why people don't want to hop to win11 but get on Linux then bitch
This is just the beginning of a yearly subscription for Windows OS. Just wait.
This is just the beginning of a thread of ragebait and misinformation. Windows has been doing this for yearrssssssss. Stop sensationalizing old news.
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Why will they do that? That will kill Windows.
Nah, I would rather use free Linux.
It’s actually incredible how good Linux is, and it’s entirely free. No ads, no bullshit, just a rock solid OS. It’s staggering how small a proportion of people use it.
Arch BTW?
Hannah Montana Linux btw?
For one year.
They're not eligible to continue to get security updates after that (even though they'll still be doing them because businesses will).
How much for security updates for XP?
The navy pays $9million a year for xp updates
My understanding is that the cost of Extended Security Updates (ESU) goes up every year.
Tbh sounds fair. I mean keeping systems secure is not cheap task . If we can kep using w10 without all the “free AI “ shit , is not bad . I mean they will get their income from w11 from it on users… From users data. They should add windows clean with the office subscription and a not clean option . I would not say free. We are used to think that free is better, but there are a lot of time invested in development and updates. Linux free distros are not so secure, they even do a statement you have to agree to use them. that’s why companies pay Read hat .
OK Looks like my little MS Surface is going to be running Linux.
It is stupid easy to get Linux to run a surface
I'm running Win 10 Ameliorated on mine. Manual driver installs were the only big hiccup. Works well otherwise, but it's not my daily driver.
I can't really use Linux since my work is deeply embedded in Microsoft everything; I need OneDrive to work dependably.
lol no
Microsoft needs to sell its software (including OS) and they’ve always done so through manufacturers.
The average user, in their mind, doesn’t care about/want/have a choice for Windows, they just went to a shop to buy a computer, Windows was just on it. So for Microsoft, a public company who’s graphs need to keep going up forever, “increasing revenue from Windows” equates to “making people buy more computers” - this, in my opinion, is why they went down the TPM route (which consumers didn’t care about), and now, the “Copilot compatible” PC (whixh users don’t care about) routes. For the shareholders, you need a new computer, not an update to your existing one.
So this is where it gets interesting - a catch 22 for Microsoft - the average user doesn’t want a new computer (the internet works fine right), but Microsoft need their graphs to go up and they don’t want to work for free… BUT they can’t afford to have “Windows” become synonymous with “viruses” again (they bothered to make Windows defender for free for this reason), so if people don’t pay up, there could be millions of virus ridden computers and everyone will look for a new laptop “but not windows again” because of the viruses…
Mac instead? Maybe, but most laptops are sold for €300, not €1000+…
Current known, “safe consumer choice” brands (OEMs) and big box retailers are and will continue to be influenced/controlled/blackmailed by Microsoft’s license pricing and legal teams to maintain the status quo on the shelves and we’ll see what plays out.
This subscription talk then is big news, not just because of the controversy surround subscriptions generally, but because this could change the shape of supply and demand in the PC market significantly.
As always there won’t be one answer for everyone, but these are some ways it could play out.
- Microsoft forgets the idea
- Microsoft offers a free version supported by ads
- Consumers pay up, even if it takes a generation
- Consumers move to Apple
- Major PC manufacturers and retailers spite Microsoft terms, and offer alternative OS’s
- Smaller/new PC manufacturers rise, and offer alternative OS’s
Will people pay up? Will Chromebooks take over?
Or…
(Removes sunglasses)
…will 2025 be the year of the Linux desktop?
Every year is the year of the linux desktop. Sure it has just as many problems as the others but it gets better every year and I certainly never felt the same about windows. Mac I don't have that reverse winding in my head that makes people find the apple UI's intuitive.
alright how do I switch to linux
You embrace the Gospel of Truth from Sloppily Generated Arch Jesus.
I'd say start out with Linux Mint (debian edition) if you need something simple. Bazziteos if you're a gamer. Jump around as you see fit. Maybe put it on a vm to test it out or make a ventoy usb to put a bunch of isos on and test them all out.
I'm a neanderthal. I barely know how computers work. I switched to Linux mint cinnamon a couple months ago. I'm a light user, mostly using word processing, internet, Foundry VTT to run games, and some light gaming via steam. I watched some YouTube videos and read some articles and just kinda sent it. It is offensively easy. I see no reason to go back to windows.
There are some things that take getting used to, but the user interface is really similar to windows and I would argue is largely more functional.
This video and this article helped a lot.
Remember, I am dumb and I did it. You can do it.
So.. Torrenting security patches will be a thing? That would be a bizarre usage of torrents I have to say
I mean, this is nothing new.
People pirate extended support all the time, just look at LTSB/LTSC.
If ya dig enough you can probably find people Frankensteining patches from POSReady just so they can keep running Win7 lol
As Steve Ballmer said.... Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux ....
On a slightly more serious note though: switch to Linux, jd if you still need windows for something, run it in a VM under Linux. Just don't pay for the license because fuck Microsoft
"We let known security holes in our products, causing even the US government to be hacked, because revealing tha they existed in the first place would cost customers and hurt our bottom and only line: money. But don't worry! Our CEO just promised we will never do it again, pretty smile".
Do we get a refund when it fails prove secure?
At this point am gonna use linux.
if youre dead set to keep windows, just disconnect it from the internet.
People argue that Internet should be treated as a utility because it's required so I'm not sure removing the Internet would really work.
ive had it disconnected from my win10 machine for 4 years now. broadband is not a utility and isnt likely to ever be so the expense to bring it out here in a consistently usable form is still prohibitive. those of us in the wilds of the world have to use sattelite or nothing outside of basic cell service
How viable that is depends on the person and what they use the computer for
i use mine as a bluetooth jukebox with 6000 tracks from 30s to 00s as well as an arcade machine thanks to mame 89 and 121.
Time to pirate my Windows updates
LMFAO, as if they won't end up piratable.
You already paid for your OS? Too bad you're gonna pay again.
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This is great. Can't wait to help everyone learn linux!
What do you actually learn about Linux? How do those two differ?
So if you still want to use Windows 10 after October 2025. You need to pay them $30 to do it. Okay, just update to 11 or use Linux. Where's the problem?
A lot of not-that-old computers don’t meet the system requirements for Windows 11.
And by “not-that-old” I mean serves the limited purpose it was built for 8 years ago and is still working perfectly fine.
Hardware is lasting longer, users are less demanding.
Holy shit. Absolute scumbags.