9mo ago

Liberals are - as is so often the case - on the wrong side of history

Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly @lemmy.world

SeattleRain @lemmy.world

9mo ago

This land is my land, this land's not your land.

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modern asymmetrical warfare.
if my ancestors had suicide bombers instead of literally sticks I might not be mostly white.
The same way that AT THE TIME everyone rooted for the cowboys, not the Indians (Native Americans, but taking a little poetic license); everyone rooted for the glorious British Empire, not any the the “backwards 3rd world countries” they invaded; etc. The key is that public opinion is swayed by those that own the media, and that means rich old white men.
- In this context liberals are just less conservative conservatives.
  (And seeing where D is going, I'd say that's true in the usual context also.)
- you'd think a person posting on leftymemes would understand that the OP is criticising liberals from the left
Zionism fundamentally conflicts with Liberal ideas of oppression and hierarchy. Its hard for them to understand that a historically (and to a lesser extent currently) marginalized group (Jewish people) could perpetuate the very oppression and pain they experienced. Israel is also the "civilized" Western country that "supports queer rights and neurodivergant people" (fun fact: Israel has a special military branch where they make vulnerable and often mentally disabled people commit horrific crimes against humanity). In addition it conflicts with the Liberal idea that Judaism is a "progressive religion" leading to cognitive dissidence (can personally not confirm, Judaism is just as regressive as any other religion. I would know, ive been Jewish my entire life).
- No religion can really be progressive.
  
  Correct, especially not one as old and deep rooted in ethnonationalism as Judaism.
It's greed and propaganda.
Just the same way there are (only some??) people now saying 'genocide and inflicting deliberate suffering & destruction/eradication is bad' in relation to Palestine, there were non-racists & non-robbing people at the time of the other pictured "conflicts".
\ Not even that few of them (bcs humans tend to know what caused suffering & what suffering is), but overshadowed by the spoils & triumphs of "war".
But the formula remains the same, designate a group of people as less than human/incompetent savages (or whether the Zionist correct term for Palestinians is now), repeatedly tell people that have nothing to do with them how bad (they need them to think) they are, which pacifies the majority into silent compliancy & complicity.
\ Step 2: bloody profit.
Only once everything is raped & pillaged the propaganda loses it's fuel & the remaining human voices remain, the voices that have been saying the same thing from the start.
Tl;dr: generic genocide in progress "good", historically looking at genocide (by the same fucking people that genocided in the first place) "bad".
yeah as compared to the conservatives sitting there so on the right side.
- They mean neoliberals...
  which conservatives are a type of...
  
  ah yeah. makes a bit more sense.
- Conservatives are just liberals, 10 years behind.
https://youtu.be/z8Q-sRdV7SY?t=102
- They are native to the region. The prevailing theory derived from genetic testing best estimates Levantine Arab descendants and before that Canaanite. It also shows their genetics are consistent with the other natives in the region, meaning they came from there. But dont let facts split your hate.
  
  Do the Jewish people have any genetic history linking them there too?
  (I'm not pro Israel, nor am I setting up an argument. I don't know and am genuinely curious)
- Fuck off fascist.

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